Supreme Court allows release of Trump's tax returns to House Democrats

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    I was referring to the congressional committee that requested the returns.
     
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    The Supreme court is majority Republican appointed. A third of them were appointed by Trump himself. Dems didn't make **** here. The law made this. Deal with it.
     
  3. The Mello Guy

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    Yes. They made the request years ago.
     
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    No the law says they can get anyone’s taxes. What you want is a law for everyone but the president.
     
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    Right. I'd think that making the Orange Dingleberry's returns public would be verboten.
     
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    No one is stopping an investigation into any Biden, yet you continually use that as an excuse for Trump. Maybe if his supporters didn't always give him a free pass for his egregious behavior, we wouldn't be here.

    Trump did this to himself, blaming others let alone using relative excuses doesn't make Trump any better.
     
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    So, you'll support prosecuting the chairman, if the returns are leaked?
     
  8. Vote4Future

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    Your statements are laughable at best. I do not support Donald Trump. I support the Constitution. The Democrats have spent decades trying to destroy it and control the people. Maybe if their supporters would open their eyes and stop allowing this, we wouldn't be here.
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    Didn’t every Republican/conservative justice confirm this is constitutional?
     
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    You mean after Democrats bend the truth as to why they want Trump's returns? The fiftieth attempt to get his returns? The decay of the Republic is ongoing led by the elected Democrats!
     
  11. The Mello Guy

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    If honest was so important I think you’d be glad they’ll help trump fulfill his promise to release them.
     
  12. Vote4Future

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    Biden promised to beat Covid, and here we are. Should he resign?

    Show me anywhere that it is a requirement of a President o release their tax returns. This isn't about Trump. This is about the future of this country. This is about freedom.
     
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    It won't be unconstitutional. It will simply be a FEC law and that is found under Article 1, section 8, necessary and proper clause, of the said Constitution.

    If you make that argument, then you are also arguing that ALL FEC laws and regulations are unconstitutional, and that is not the case, per several Supreme Court cases.
     
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    Being audited is no big deal. He is in the upper-income bracket and they are audited more often with little to no change in the tax liability, per IRS reports.

    Second, being audited just means there are questionable items on the return. Sometimes it can be explained legally and sometimes not. And my guess it has to do with all the NOL he is claiming that have been continuous on his returns for years.
     
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    Trump just ignored Covid and here we are.
     
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    And? It is in 26 USC 6103(f) for them to ask for ANY Return they see fit.
     
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    I’ve never had the obsession to obtain Trump’s tax record which some have and never understood it. Trump’s a has been and has been a has been since he lost the 2020 election. Although he and his supporters haven’t realized that yet. That’s kind of dumb in my political playbook. Trump by himself turned what should have been a red wave election, the Republicans had everything going for them this year into a red trickle. The GOP’s very poor showing falls directing on Trump and his supporters shoulders. Tax records or not, Trump is the best thing the democrats have going for them, at least election wise. Public opinion of Trump is very low, around 35% favorable depending the poll, tax records isn’t going to hurt or help what the public thinks of Trump, especially independents, the swing voters who decide elections. Let the has been fade away, as long as Trump is gone from the political scene, I don’t care about tax records, investigations or anything else. After the 2020 election, Trump should have just disappeared like all other ex-president have. But his ego wouldn’t let him. Outside of his supporters, no one wants an egotistical, obnoxious, rude, uncouth individual as president anymore. He’s a loser as 2018, 2020, 2022 has shown.
     
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    But your guy said he would win the Covid battle should he get elected. He failed at his promise. I have family that died from Covid after Biden was elected. He should resign or be put in prison, right?
     
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    And it can only be viewed in an executive closed session. That means that not even the whole committee can see the returns. They sure as hell can't bring in a team of forensic accounts to go through it all, as I'm sure you all were hoping for.
     
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    A right to have the IRS protect them from from disclosure. What is your proof no one has ever before been subject to audits every year?

    If Trump violated tax law why hasn't the IRS ever charged him? Are you still claiming because the IRS is corrupt and was protecting him all these years?
     
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    For LEGISTLATIVE purpose only and only in CLOSED SESSION.
     
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    This is about a requirement to quality for President which is a CONSTITUTIONAL matter and the SCOTUS has long said Congress cannot add such requirements by statute. And it would nothing to do with a necessary and proper Article 1 section 8 claim else we can just strike out the entire rest of the Constitution.

    "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

    The power to elect the President is a STATE power not a federal power of the United States Government.
     
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    Neither the vote result nor the legal reasoning behind it were released. In such conflicts between the Executive and Legislative branches the SCOTUS tends to not inject itself preferring they settle it between themselve.
     
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    Nobody is accusing trump of violating tax laws. Proof of crimes isn’t needed before govt oversight can happen.
     

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