FoxHastings said: ↑ Gee, no hypocrisy there !! (sarcasm alert) So the real goal is to punish women who had consensual sex. Why is one abortion OK but not another unless Anti-Choicers want to punish women who had consensual sex? Where did I indicate that? Do you know you contradicted yourself in that statement? Pro-Choicers don't care about rape victims but support their choice??? LOL!!
How can the government do that? If abortion was removed from the health system, how would women have lost the right to their body? They could still do whatever the hell they want with their body! How exactly is having a doctor kill the baby inside them an example of them exercising their right to their body? What does it mean to 'legislate' someone's healthcare? And as for guns, are existing gun laws currently being challenged. Perhaps you mean that legislating a gun ban cannot even be challenged.
<Reply to Deleted> You still haven't answered: How is an abortion due to rape any different than an abortion due to consensual sex?
FoxHastings said: ↑ <Reply to Deleted> You still haven't answered: How is an abortion due to rape any different than an abortion due to consensual sex? NO, an abortion procedure is exactly the same for pregnancy due to rape and pregnancy due to consensual sex. Why do you oppose abortion?
And you do yourself no favours by not actually even attempting to make an argument in response to my post, instead just picking out one single word. You also do yourself no favours by showing that you don't know that the word "baby" is not a scientific term! Yes, it is obviously scientifically a fetus! However, it is also a baby if I say it is! Sharia laws? WTF? What does this have to do with Islam?
The doctor is involved because there is a lot of inherent danger to homemade abortions, especially for women who don't have any medical knowledge or training and are probably working off something they have heard secondhand(or worse) or something they read on the internet. It's for safety. legislate verb leg·is·late | \ ˈle-jə-ˌslāt \ legislated; legislating Definition of legislate intransitive verb : to perform the function of legislation specifically : to make or enact laws transitive verb : to mandate, establish, or regulate by or as if by legislation
Okay, so this is the 'safety" argument, but what does this have to do with women's right to their body? Notice how you didn't mention bodily rights in your above response? Are you suggesting that there should be ZERO healthcare legislation? I also see that you weren't able to defend your comparison to guns.
Baloney..... a fetus is a fetus and a baby is a baby and NO pro-Choicer has said otherwise. An abortion procedure is exactly the same for pregnancy due to rape and pregnancy due to consensual sex. Why do you oppose abortion?
Then why do expecting mother's refer to it as their baby? "We're having a baby" The difference is one is due to lack of responsibility. The other is due to a criminal act. Because life starts at conception. Should not kill babies unless life is at risk.
That's fine. Everyone is a mix of views, nobody runs straight down the line on either side. Don't let people on either side railroad you into submitting, on any issue. Think for yourself.
Just a thought--I don't mean to sound like I'm attacking--but if the govt claims rights over the woman's body and forces her to give birth, isn't the govt also then responsible for the care of that child?
Because that's what they CHOOSE to call it. She can call it anything she wants but it's still scientifically a FETUS. You are talking about conception. I asked you about abortion. An abortion procedure is exactly the same for pregnancy due to rape and pregnancy due to consensual sex Why should a person lose the right to their own body because you think they were irresponsible. Irresponsibility is not a crime or most people would be in jail at one time or another in their lives. Again, it sounds like it's all about punishing women for having consensual sex. So life doesn't start at conception if the woman is raped !! ????? No babies are killed in an abortion. Again, it sounds like it's all about punishing women for having consensual sex
I'm no the government should have aid available for the parents but the mother and father are responsible for having sex.
Oh look! No answers from some posters! ( Talk about a distraction like, Quick, look over there! Don't look at what I'm doing!" ) Oh, look, every poll outside PF has maintained for years that most Americans believe abortion should be legal...
Turns out pro abortionists do exist, in China they force women who are pregnant with baby number 3 in some areas to abort even at 9 months. But go on about how Eugenistsits don't still exist and use Abortion as their means of choice.
All I wanted to say was your allowed to have your opinion and you shouldn't be slandered and bullied for it.