SUPREME COURT WILL REVIEW TRUMP TRAVEL BAN, ALLOWS IT TO TAKE EFFECT IN MOST INSTANCES

Well, your two arguments are for a different thread, because 1. I could argue the failed War on Drugs is a way for law enforcement agencies and prisons to profile. If someone wants to use meth, cocaine or speed, let them. If their overdose, its their choice and 2. The wall will not be a end-all for illegal immigration.

But more on point, these travel bans look good on paper, they look good in soundbites, but they will not hold up. The wall is the same way.

 

No they don't.

 

Poll: Half support Trump travel ban
BY MARK HENSCH - 06/06/17 03:36 PM EDT
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/336579-poll-half-support-trump-travel-ban

 

Yes, I know that. We can all put up polls all day long that say different things. I even specified that the poll that Fox cited in June has the disapproval at a very slim margin. You're going to find some polls that way, and some polls with the slim approval. That's what happens with polls with a margin of error.

The statement can't be made that "Americans support the ban". It's probably at this point only half. The other half doesn't.

 

Can we just say, "Americans that matter"? Voters. Trump was elected in part on this agenda.

 

He didn't promote his books while being president. did he go to book signings? did he read from the book during speeches or press conferences? did he do any advertising for them? NOPE.


OTOH, donnie is running around ensuring that millions of taxpayer dollars are flowing into his properties. Fer instance he made $8 million more from mar el largo SINCE he was elected and doubled the membership fees. Its in his one page financial disclosure document of a couple weeks ago or is that yet another thing the right has chosen to ignore about him?

 

All Americans matter. Even the ones who didn't vote for Trump.

I didn't vote for Obama, twice. But I still was an American between 2009 and 2017, and I still mattered. You didn't?

 

That didn't stop the Assclown in Chief from penning some retarded EO's, he did them anyway. To the victor goes the spoils, elections have consequences.

 

So you didn't matter between 2009-2017? I did. My opinion did. So no, your assessment that only "Americans that matter" support the ban is wrong. All Americans matter. I'm sorry you don't agree with that.

 

I mattered. So did the people who tired of watching Obama promise us millions of middle eastern refugees. You seem to have forgotten how Trump got to the Whitehouse.

 

You do not have an answer. Thank you.

I don't. I speak specifically about you.

 

Trump got into the White House by winning the majority of the electoral college. I didn't forget that, and not sure why you'd think I didn't know how he won. I suspect everyone on this board knows how he won.

Yes, we all mattered. And today the people who don't support the Trump/Miller travel ban matter too. I may not agree with them, but I don't say they don't matter. Trump wanted to be President of the United States. He doesn't get to pick and choose who he represents either.

To the Trump supporters, the travel ban is important for whatever reason. To the other half of the country, it isn't. Neither one is right and neither one is wrong.

 

No, I don't think this will end tourism, if you've got a visa to visit the US, booked hotel stays, car rental, have an itinerary, traveller's checkes and this sort of arrangements (like any tourist) you can show your bona fides well enough.

Those who complain are looking for flaws, those who don't see the sense; an Islamic extremist from one of these half dozen terrorist wracked places with no ties, relatives, property or interests in the US, with no assets or resources and an unverifiable background -should be kept out.

 

For the life of me, I'm scratching my head how we'll lose any tourist revenue from blocked Somalians?

 

Neither can the statement Americans do not support the ban then. And what don't they not support, the ban as it was written or how the MSM has lied about it since January?

 

I never made the statement that Americans do not support the ban.

 

He won the majority of states which gave him the Electoral College win. If there is another way to do it I'm all ears.

What matters to him are the policies that he ran on and for which he won the election and a KEY one was controlling the influx of immigrants from the countries the Obama administration had put on the top watch list.

The reasons are quite clear and yes there is a right and a wrong when it comes to our national security.

 

"That was February. More recent polls say most oppose it although by a very slim margin."

But it was this that started the discussion

Balto said: ↑
Really, protests stretching from LAX to the airport in Miami to BWI, and you think Americans support it? Maybe the 35-38% of Trump's coalition, but I'm sorry, I'm not buying that Americans support it. You would think by now, they would have a system devised that would no longer require travel bans.

 

Okay. And I'm not Balto, and once again, I didn't say that Americans don't support the ban. Anywhere.

 

I didn't say there was another way to win the Presidency. Not sure where you got that from my post. You asked how he won the election, and I told you. That's how all Presidents have won, certainly in my lifetime.

Once again, the travel ban may be or may not be a very important issue to the Trump voters. It may or may not be an important issue to other voters. There are over 320 million Americans, and we all have issues that matter more than others to us.

Not sure what you're missing in what I'm saying.

 

Just adding some elaboration for when the lurkers post the "well he only won the Electoral College not the [non-existent] popular vote". If you look at the demographics of the polling yes it is a very important issue with the right where he gets his support.

 

But you see how the conversation progressed.

 

I didn't say anything about the popular vote. He won the Presidency the way you have to in order to be declared the winner. By winning the electoral college.

I also didn't say his supporters didn't find it an important issue. I said some do, some don't. Just like some people who didn't vote for him think it's important, and some don't. Unless we ask every single citizen, we will never really know what everyone thinks or cares about.

 

No, because I'm posting as myself, and not another poster. Another poster's posts aren't relevant to what I'm posting unless it's an exchange between me and them.

 

You said
""That was February. More recent polls say most oppose it although by a very slim margin."

Well some recent don't, some say most support it although by a very slim margin, so we can agree polls show both.