SUPREME COURT WILL REVIEW TRUMP TRAVEL BAN, ALLOWS IT TO TAKE EFFECT IN MOST INSTANCES

A good and fair result.
Trump's initial claim that his EO was not subject to judicial review is bounced.
His right to make the EO is affirmed.

But he needed 90 days to make a review of procedures for National Security reasons - in January 2017

So where is the review?

Does he not care about National Security?

 

Yes, they've done such a great job of it so far. That's why we've never had an attack committed by someone who came from Saudi Arabia, and instead have had all those attacks by Yemenis and Syrians. Like the Bowling Green Massacre.

 

Are you saying this based on your inside knowledge? Please do share what you know.

 

I don't recall saying anywhere that the Saudi government was responsible for 9/11, so I have no idea what your post is supposed to mean.

 

I'm not sure. Our last batch of Presidents have cozied up to them real nice

 

Our last 5 or 6 Presidents spent their time pampering the Saudis.

 

You haven't paid attention the last 16 years? You assert nothing has changed. Scroll back and address what I already posted. And again what was your point?

 

I've been paying attention to many things. That's why I wasn't dumb enough to vote for a reality TV show host for President.

Tell me what Trump has done to prevent Saudi citizens or people coming through Saudi Arabia from committing the acts they have committed in the past. This isn't hard.

 

I'm didn't vote for either nor was I speaking of just the last 6 months. So are you reallg asserting that since 9/11 nothing has been done vis-a-vis the KSA to fight Islamic terrorism and their political and security is no different from that of the countries listed in the ban?

 

In December of 2015 a woman and her husband entered a workplace in San Bernardino, where American citizens were enjoying their Christmas Party. 14 people were killed and over 20 were seriously and permanently injured. The husband was a US citizen, born and raised in this country. The wife was Pakistani by birth, and emigrated to the United States through Saudi Arabia.

I can't remember the last terror attack on American soil committed by Yemenis. I can't even remember the first one.

 

No one especially me claimed its a perfect world but ti put the KSA in thr same group as the countries on the travel ban list is folly. I have no great affinity for them but do recognize their important role in the fight we face.

 

It is more better ... only ONE of all the many Islamic terror acts on US soil since 9/11 was done by a person coming from one of these 6 countries - Somalia. All other did not or were US born persons! And if we take into account all the Islamic terror acts in Europe, it looks not better for Trump!

A very good example is Iran for these 6 countries...
Sure, every idiot knows that the US and Iran since 1979 are all but no friends. But honestly ... does anybody here actually believe that with this Ban the entry of Iranian agents with malicious intent is prevented? Iranian intelligence is one of the most effective in the world! Oh so ... sorry, it's about terroism. OK, look ... Iranian Terroists are the Hezbollah, so they should not enter the USA. Well, does not work, because the Hezbollah sits in Lebanon and not in Iran and the Lebanon does not belong to these 6 countries with the Ban.

Mission failed Mr. Trump!

 

Oh Good Grief you Trump pot shots to increase the intensity and spin it back to Trump are ridiculous. The point is simple anyone who lumps Saudi in there with those countries is very very simple minded or deceitful. Number one no country over there is immune to radicals but Saudi has been cracking down, is an allie, , doesn't have refugees fleeing, has an intelligence agency that actually shares information with us and has fought terrorism with us. Not one of those countries on the ban list can say any of these things.

 

The people whose family members in San Bernardino died at the hands of the woman who came here from Saudi Arabia would be proud of your loyalty to President Trump.

 

This-----^ Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton, and even HW Bush and Reagan all did that.

 

No you don't. You made that up.

Like your claim, above...

 

Given the changes in the oil market, this is likely to change.

 

I hope so. F the Saudis

 

Iran, the largest automobile manufacturer in the MENA region and top 20 in the world, is home to several large automobile manufacturers that produce around 1.6 million cars each year. The two largest ones are Iran Khodro and Saipa. And contrary to what you are trying to peddle, Iran actually one of the rare countries in the world which not only produces almost everything but has a positive balance of trade surplus is almost every category. Among heavy industries, besides its oil and gas industries, Iran ranks #4 in the world in cement production. It is a top 15 steel producer, etc.
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On the ban and the court decision, the ban was ridiculous in that it affected mostly Iranian visitors and excluded visitors from all of the countries whose citizens have actually been involved in carrying terrorist attacks in the US. Since most of the Iranian visitors have a bona fide relationship with the US, the court ruling will help in offsetting some of the most egregious examples of how the ban operated.
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Someone ridiculed the notion that "tourism" is affected by such a ban. Iran has actually plenty of tourist attractions and attracts millions of foreign tourists. But of course as long as the current policies against Iran prevail, most Americans wouldn't know it.

 

Oh? Lessee, his income is up substantially from the "southern white house" since he doubled the membership fees after becoming president.
Lessee, his "visits to his golf courses" don't inject any cash into them - he comps the secret service no doubt.

then again, do we have any idea what's in his personal investment portfolio - I'll bet you he's heavily invested in military manufacturers and oil companies.

are you actually going to deny that Trump outright lies, misrepresents and claims credit for other peoples accomplishments?

 

Post hoc fallacy - yours is a meaningless claim that correlation equals causation.
But thank you for proving my pont.

 

So, the president is within his rights to enrich himself in office? I can't say whether what he's doing is illegal since I ain't a lawyer, but is sure as hell is UNETHICAL.
Just like the nepotism he practices by exploiting a loophole.

But I suppose to some ethics can be ignored if the practice isn't deemed "illegal".

Pathetic.

 

False equivalency noted.

 

Way to deflect from actually addressing the truth. But hey, I totally understand your reluctance to engage because you have NO DEFENSE.

Unless of course you think having 22 million of your fellow citizens losing healthcare coverage is somehow a "win".
Unless of course you thing getting away with lies, misrepresentations and taking false credit are actually "wins" because you can't differentiate between Trumps bullshit and reality.

Mindless talking points? Well, I agree mindless is an apt description for those that think Trump is Winning.

 

Why will these people lose their coverage?

You only take issue with this because Trump has a R next to his name.