SUV plows down Wisconsin Christmas parade as children watch in horror

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  1. Badaboom

    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was a disturbance, not necesarally a crime. Shouting at someone can cause a disturbance, but the cops won't chase you for it.
     
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    Yeah, this guy was definitely a legal scholar and upstanding guy who was doing nothing wrong and would have welcomed the police showing up. You got me there.
     
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    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which you don't have, so my "guess" is as good as yours. But I still consider it worthy of investigating it as fully as can be, just like they do when a white dude commits a crime agains black.
     
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    I linked you to an article to provide an example for how to go about it. The article doesn't contain the names and pictures of every single victim involved. You picked out the three from the article who weren't pasty white without looking at the full picture. You still haven't done any grunt work.
     
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    . . . No ****, Sherlock! That's why I need more evidence before jumping to a conclusion.

    I'm not guessing. Guessing is bad.

    And no one has said otherwise. You are charging at windmills.
     
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    I can't find any article that does. And I've looked.

    I've done more than you. You didn't even read your own article. I read it for you. It lists 8 victims: 5 white and 3 non-white. You should try reading it. I'm not "picking out" anyone. I'm mentioning the race of EVERY VICTIM LISTED IN YOUR ARTICLE. 8 victims mentioned: 5 white and 3 not. Do I seriously have to explain that 5+3=8? Seriously?

    "I gave you 8 victims and you only talked about all 8 of them" is an idiotic argument.
     
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    You think I'm jumping to conclusion when all I'm saying is that I wan't the same effort to investigate the racial motive as strongly as they do for when a white commit a crime against black.
     
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    And when I say that I'm not going to call it racially motivated until evidence shows it is, you say I'm jumping to the conclusion that it wasn't racially motived. No one, anywhere, is objecting to what you are suggesting in the post above. But every time someone says, "Well, I don't have enough evidence to categorically say it was definitely racist yet, pending further investigation," you accuse THEM of jumping to a conclusion.
     
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    No, I'm saying that they're dismissing the racial motive to fast and are instead trying to divert attention to something else which they don't do in the case of a white dude.
     
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    Can you name one person, quote one person, who has said that the motive couldn't possibly be racial? Can you quote me saying this?
     
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    Again, you don't need to write those exact word to imply something. The "let's wait for evidences" seems to apply to non-white more often then whites. I say, let's even the playing field and use the same playbook for all, do you agree?
     
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    How about something along the lines of "Career Criminal Attacks Parade Participants and On-Lookers with SUV"?
     
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    I already do. Let's wait for the evidence. What's wrong with that?
     
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    There's even less reason to think the Waukesha police are lying.
     
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    I think he did, or tried to, his girlfriend, earlier this month, I think.
     
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    Seems like a perfect headline to me.
     
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    We're here to debate about thing, why wait?
     
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    So you don't want to base your take on evidence? What do you want to base it on, then? And are you saying we shouldn't have waited if the perpetrator were white? You didn't want to review the evidence for Rittenhouse? Then that's where we differ: you don't want to wait for evidence, regardless of race, and I do want evidence to base my opinion on, regardless of race. Glad we've settled that.
     
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    If they have a failed business model, I don't care.
    I don't watch any of the BS that is 24/7 reality tv masquerading as news sources. No one should do so. But they do and are hooked at all the spin from both sides. So, it must be working.

    And if people don't want it, you should be happy. They still need to pay bills. So if they lose ad revenue, they lose the ability to stay in business.
    And remember, it's a business.
     
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    Follow up: which is it, do you not want to be accused of jumping to a conclusion, or do you not want to wait for evidence? You can't have it both ways.
     
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    People didn't wait in the case of many cases where the perp was white, many time they had to backtrack. I'm saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander, and this perp should go through the same **** as any other. Again, we're on a political forum to debate things, not to wait for the conclusion. This would make this forum the most boring website on earth if nobody argued about things. Might as well read a newspaper.
     
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    Make up your mind. You are going back to using other people's hypocrisy to justify a hypocritical take of your own. You walked back from that take before, and now you are back to it. I honestly can't tell what you actually believe.
     
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    I don't think people understand. CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, WaPo etc... they really don't have a "business model" in any real sense. They are owned by massive MASSIVE entities like AT&T, Disney, Comcast, Amazon, etc... These "News" organizations can have terrible ratings (see CNN) and not be forced to change their ways to remain profitable. They are not profitable now and they don't change. They are subsidized by their MASSIVE parent companies that are alright with the loss as long as they push their agenda. Leftists believe they are independent thinkers? They are literally just ingesting propaganda from the Establishment and repeating those lies. Gruber, Stalin, etc.. were right about "Useful Idiots" and they play to that part of the populace while the rest of us are just baffled at how people can be so easily manipulated.
     
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    I don't believe you.

    I don't believe you.

    I've been able to find six victims who aren't pasty white thus far, and half of them are from the same family. The rest seem to be pretty pasty white to me.
     
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    Do you have a profit/loss statement.

    You do realize that fox, OAN, and newsmaxx are the same as CNN in terms of product. "Useful Idiots" also watch those 24/7 reality tv. Rightist think they are independent thinkers? They are literally just ingesting propaganda from the Establishment and repeating those lies.
    the rest of us are just baffled at how people can be so easily manipulated.
     

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