Sweden: Nobody helped woman raped by 20 Muslim migrants — neighbors have “learned not to see or hear

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Your opinion means nothing in fact.

    Wrong again.

    More details are now being published about the high profile case in Fittja, which took place in a stairwell in August 2016

    Please pay attention to the story.

    So you have no evidence whatsoever its fake and no evidence the source has ever produced even a single fake news story.

    Thanks for verifying what I've been saying all along.
     
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  2. Jim Nash

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    "It's all a lie!!!!" is never their most effective defense. Or do I mean: is invariably the last defense of the desperate, watching their diversity ideals sail off into the sunset.

    BTW, well done on getting this one up & running. As you noted: I did not succeed ;).
     
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    Well, if the South that I live in, ever reaches this point, it is time for the People to take back their gov't, and stop whatever they are doing which allows and enables such behavior to happen. In the South, we would read in the papers how NYC was, and perhaps still is where someone could get attacked and people would just walk on by, because they did not want to get involved. So we expect that from cities, where people lose some of their humanity but not outside of these pus festering big cities.

    There seems to be a certain problem with these muslims and the cultures they come from, and yet, it has a cause. The cause is the culture which permits such behavior, the culture they came from, but just as important, the culture that takes them in, and the gov't which allowed it to happen, and their refusal to fix what they broke. To not know, to not be aware, of the problems that would arrive with these backward cultures shows with certainty how stupidity reigns, because some people do not want to be seen as islamaphobes, or racists, so on and so forth. And if western women get raped, well, that is just a most acceptable cost of wanting to appear to be charitable and caring culture. When indeed, this is when stupidity raises its ugly head. Unless people are intelligent enough, to accept a hard fact, with that fact being, some cultures are not fit to mix in with western culture. You want evidence? Hell, pull your head from the sands, and just be aware of what is happening in europe, in regards to these barbaric, unenlightened, backwards cultures where you find the majority to be muslims. That these rapists and other pond scum, are not literally kicked out, with a size 12 up their backsides is on the gov't which rules over europe.

    It is this kind of liberal governance, which creates and causes what is referred to as right wing behavior, or, when people get fed up with liberal policies which are literally insuring western women will be assaulted and raped, even as europe is still taking these kind of barbarians in, whether their own people want it or not. It is behavior like this, from these islamic cultures, which can lead to a violent reaction, from europeans, and you literally have a war within a nation, between cultures, created by....you guessed it..multiculturalism. And the potential dangers, disorder, and problems created by being ignorant as to what happens when you buy into multiculturalism instead of demanding assimilation into the existing culture of those european nations. So, if you want to see and understand why most all nations have demanded and pursued assimilation over multiculturalism, just look at europe. If you want to see what the stupidity of liberalism creates you need look no farther than what is happening in europe. Remember New Years Eve in Germany a couple years ago? I have read that the news outlets in europe avoid telling their own people about many of these crimes committed on women by muslims. In fear it might cause a backlash on muslims. So, you hide it from the people there, increasing the risks for european women.

    What you are seeing in europe is the result of stupidity and ignorance, by those european gov'ts. They are not looking out for their own culture, nor the security and general welfare of their own citizens. And if this is not the truth, then truth does not exist. Stupidity and ignorance has a way of punishing those who are stupid and ignorant. One can say it is some kind of natural law in the way that something becomes inevitable, as jumping off a tall building is a death sentence.
     
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    It's reported across multiple sources. If you're looking for a NYT article you're out of luck. They would never report on such a thing. And BTW, let's all note that you're displaying the exact same moral repugnance.
     
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    It's not in any mainstream media but reported online by 'multiple sources.' Which sources? Credible sources? Or rightwing fake news sources that work to stir up hatred of Muslims? As I said, Sweden is a safe and controled society. They are not overrun by Muslims. Women who report rape are taken seriously, not dismissed as the article claims.
     
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    I read the story completely.

    It lacks any detail at all other than the name of a suburb of Stockholm. No victim's name, no witness names, no police spokesman......nothing.

    Saying "more details are being published" in a story that contains no verifiable details at all doesn't cut it.

    And Jihad Watch IS an American far right wing anti Muslim hate site run by a guy in North Carolina.

    This news does not come from Sweden, or even from anywhere in the European continent.
     
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    Show us these "multiple sources". Info Wars and sites associated with professional hate peddlers like Pam Geller and Robert Spencer don't cut it.
     
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    Perhaps you should look at the most violent countries in the world and you will see that they are hugely majority Christian with practically zero Muslims - El Salvador, Honduras, Venezuala
     
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    If you had you would have seen the date instead of claiming it had none.

    Are you serious? Its a police investigation.

    I'll say it again your personal opinion means nothing and you have no evidence the story is false.
     
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    Where is your source for this claim and the evidence the violence is religiously based on those countries?

    We both know you have none.
     
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    Sadly, quite true. 3rd World Poverty is a b***h.
     
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    Many of the gangs south of the border are becoming more like their pagan ancestors:

    Drug cartels and street gangs in Mexico are creating their own religions and altering beliefs in existing Catholic saints, in a move to create a new “narcoculture” that tries to morally justify crime and violence.

    Some of these new figures of worship are existing Catholic saints, most of which have had their meaning altered for the narcoculture. Some are pulled from Aztec gods worshipped through human sacrifice, while others are new creations altogether.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/mexican-gangs-create-narco-saints-to-moralize-crime-2_2281006.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Muerte


    9 of the top 10 most dangerous countries in the world are all majority Muslim:

    1 Syria 3.814
    2 Afghanistan 3.567
    3 Iraq 3.556
    4 South Sudan 3.524
    5 Yemen 3.412
    6 Somalia 3.387
    7 Libya 3.328
    8 Central African Republic 3.213
    9 Sudan 3.213
    10 Ukraine 3.184
    https://www.atlasandboots.com/most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world-ranked/

    Islam = Suck.
     
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    Really? You haven't heard of the violence in those countries - they have the highest murder rates and there are easily accessible links if you could be bothered to look, Who said anything about any of the violence being religion based. One of the accused rapists is a drug addict which is one of the worse crimes against Islam so clearly his attack is not religiously based. Yep, hypocrisy is the apt description here
     
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    So you don't have any evidence just as I said. What a surprise.
     
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    but they arn't violent because of christianity. they are violent because they are the pathways between columbia and mexico.

    muslim nations are violent because of islam
     
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    You're quoting a source that uses "level of perceived criminality in society" as one of its only 5 measurements
     
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    Indonesia which has the highest number of Muslims has a murder rate lower than Iceland
     
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    You might wish to take a long hard look at your own society.
     
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    See; america, for example.
     
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    yeah that's not true:


    I know that if we read UNODC 2013 Global Study on Homicide, Indonesia murder rate lies very low at 0.5 per 100,000 people. But, previous UNODC study from 2011 contradicts this number with murder 8.1 per 100,000 people.

    The 2011 study for Indonesia used data from 2008, and the 2013 study used data from 2012.

    I don’t think the homicide rate could drop significantly lower in just four years, so there must be another explanation.

    After reading about the methodology they used in both studies, I noticed some differences. The Indonesia homicide data UNODC use for 2011 study was derived from WHO and Public Health (hospital, clinic, etc) but for 2013 study they used data from Criminal Justice (Police).

    I assume that the significant lower homicide rate is because Criminal Justice defines homicide differently, in which, not every murder counts as homicide. For example, a robbery gone wrong that results in victim’s death might be only considered as violent theft and not homicide.

    Homicide is well explained in chapter 338 and 340 of Kitab Undang-Undang Hukum Pidana/KUHP (Criminal Law used in Indonesian justice system); as well as violent-robbery in chapter 365.

    Fatal robbery only counts as homicide if the culprit had, with disregard to human life, intentionally and with consent ended the victim’s life. If according to police investigation the murder wasn’t carried out intentionally or death is resulted from violence but not deliberately planned to be a murder, it count only as violent-robbery.

    So, yes, if we talked about “intentional homicide” the 0.5 per 100,000 figure might be true. But, I believe the “unintentional homicide” is much higher. Because many of violent crimes in Indonesia are money-motivated, so murders committed during robberies must be higher than what we know from the UNODC studies.

    Sources:

    1. 2013 study: https://www.unodc.org/documents/...
    2. 2011 study: https://www.unodc.org/documents/...
     
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    keep your muslim propaganda coming
     
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    Well, I missed the date at the top.

    And, since you could produce nothing other than a claim, I'll repeat that there are no details of any substance at all in this story.

    Ironically, every right winger here assumes that the perpetrators are Muslim. Yet the blog post that this story is largely cribbed from doesn's mention Muslims at all.
     
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    are you seriously asking if 20 swedish dudes raped this woman?
     
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    Because Muhammad has commanded all muslims to carry out all of these horrible acts.
     

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