Sweden: Nobody helped woman raped by 20 Muslim migrants — neighbors have “learned not to see or hear

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  1. kazenatsu

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    Several of those rebuttals just involve stretching of the facts to try to cover up the picture through clever semantics.

    Though I'll agree most of what it says is technically correct.

    Several of the potential explanations it offers for some of the facts may help mitigate them to some degree but are not the primary reasons for the way the statistics are.

    For example, it's very true the definition of rape has become broadened over time, to even ridiculous levels (look at what happened to Julian Assange) but this all began well before the refugees started coming. And it's easy to break down the rape statistics by looking at the number of "violent rapes" which are categorized separately, and you still see this number has skyrocketed. So then it's obvious that broadening of the definition of rape can't account for this great increase.
     
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    And the more attractive they are (as the one in the video link), the more apprehensive they are. Bloody fools, they asked for it, and now they've got it! Zero sympathy I'm afraid.
     
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    I can't find one reference to the story except in extreme right blogs like stormfront and jihad watch.
     
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    Original article here: https://www.metro.se/artikel/kvinna...dtäkten-i-fittja-fick-höra-att-hon-var-äcklig

    Metro does seem to oftentimes border on being tabloid, in all fairness, and has a frequent tendency to over-sensationalize stories, though I doubt they'd make something like this completely up from nothing (especially with the social climate in that country, there'd be a huge backlash if one of the major papers made up a story like this).

    On the other hand, stories like these commonly don't see the light of day.
    Maybe people tolerate it because they think most people won't take a story in a tabloid too seriously. (Sort of how jesters could say unpleasant truths to kings in Medieval times and get away with it)
     
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    That article doesn't say that they were refugees or even Muslim.

    Look I hate terrorists as much as the next guy. I just don't believe in helping them. Making a story that terrorise us when they shouldn't is helping the terrorists, they don't have to do a thing.

    Jihad Watch is the blog of an extreme right-wing Zionist, it was originally funded by a charity owned by the family that owns Smith and Western.
    No prizes for figuring out those two groups would profit from a Muslim hating society.

    This is the real way to solve this particular issue.

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    https://www.thelocal.se/20170526/meet-the-super-mothers-making-a-stockholm-suburb-safer
     
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    I see... The Independent - a liberal newspaper - is now known as Jihad Watch?
     
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    Yes, it is now.

    The cucked scum that support the inundation of their land with savages see it as a perfectly acceptable "cultural practice" and even better so when the victim is a "privileged" White person.

    And the rest of their cucked population is too terrified to oppose the savages or even report them to police for fear of being killed by the savages or arrested by the police.

    At a certain point, and one way another, we all deserve our fate.
     
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    I'm amazed at how many here are doing the terrorists work for them.
     
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    You can't extrapolate Norway to Sweden; these figures aren't meaningful for numerous reasons, including completely different criteria for the crime of rape in the two countries; it's like saying Palestine and Israel share a border, so let's compare GDP.
     
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    The video is a bizarre, anecdotal blast of propaganda without a shred of meaningful evidence; it also rickrolls halfway through.

    The survey is likewise meaningless propaganda in the context of this discussion (though valid in the larger sphere of women's concerns), as twice as many women pretty much everywhere feel unsafe after dark compared to men.

    The police vs the mayor thing is just weird.
     
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    I'd like to know how there can be more than one definition of rape?
     
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    Sweden is quite the unusual country in this regard, as Julian Assange has learned...
     
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    1. Jihad Watch is not the original source of this story, so attacks on that as a source don't hold water without more. There goes half the thread.
    2. "Government data" that issues from compromised socialist European governments? Not credible either.

    I don't know enough about the topic, nor the language involved, to accurately assess the topic. Is there someone who speaks the language who can offer a nonpartisan, factual estimation of this story? In other words, did it happen as reported in Swedish newspapers? or not? Maybe that should be the starting point for discussion.
     
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    What, 'Are Swedish authorities covering up the true extent of the problem?' do you mean? Yes, it would be a good starting point.
     
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    The original source and jihad watch stories differ a lot. Where do we get the information that the attackers we Muslim refugees. As for part 2, I find it a lot more credible then Jihadwatch
     
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    It seems to me you're an intelligent fella and truly interested in the truth. To me, this debate is not about the actions of Muslim refugees
    per se, but about the truth. There may be truth in the link to the Swedish newspaper story, but I would need a lot of convincing to believe the JihadWatch one.

    Every false claim against Muslims gives the terrorists more kudos.
     
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    If you can't prove its a questionable source beyond your opinion it is trolling and offtopic designed to run from the topic.
     
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    No one cares about your opinion of the Daily Wire when you can't prove what you claim about it.

    Where is your link to any of those numbers @"Mr_Truth? You give nothing to back your claims up and we are supposed to blindly accept it? Are you kidding?

    And what a shocker you dishonestly left out their key findings on rape.

    Reported rapes in 2016 rose to 6,570, a 13% rise over 2015. The nation now ranks No. 2 in rapes per capita, Defend Europa reported.

    And unlike you I'm actually going to link to Bra. and quote them.

    In the Swedish Crime Survey (SCS), 1.7 per cent of the population (16 – 79 years of age), corresponding to approximately 129,000 persons, state that they had been exposed to sex offences. This is an increase as compared with 2014, when 1.0 per cent stated that they had been exposed. The level of sex offences remained relatively stable during the period 2005 – 2012, but after that there has been an increase.

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    Gee what a shocker the increase corresponds with the influx of Muslim refugees.

    https://www.bra.se/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics/rape-and-sex-offences.html

    So spin me another line of BS Mr Truth. I'm quoting the source you named and unlike you I can link to the facts that support me.
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    Even with the liberal fascists in Sweden doing everything they can to hide the numbers the truth, that is the actual truth comes out.
     
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    Who is going to stop a gang of 20 men from raping people? Are Swedes going to get their own gang of men together to stop them?

    The drop in violent crime seems to go down with the increase of concealed carry. Since the late 80s, we have 14 million people carrying a gun and the violent crime keeps dropping, except in heavy gun control areas. A man with a gun could stop 20 people from raping a woman.
     
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    oh I know right, If that woman wasnt a racist, she would have enjoyed the gang rape.....
     
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    You sound like harvey weinstein
     
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    wtf? The woman in the op, was gang raped, not murdered. all bs strawman posting is not a win,

    Why are you making excuses for rapists?
     
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    wtf is this strawman bullcrap.

    The woman in the OP was gang raped, not murdered.

    Why are you attempting to defend gang rapists?
     

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