Sweden: Nobody helped woman raped by 20 Muslim migrants — neighbors have “learned not to see or hear

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  1. dairyair

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    Snakeman isn't real? :(
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    In fairness, not EVERY right wing person attacks Muslims.

    But waaaaaaay too many do. :(
     
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    Really. Then I'm sure you will be happy to provide the evidence that backs up a word you are saying.
     
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    Not only did Snopes lie, they did it so poorly even the New York Times busted them.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/...of-rape-and-groping-at-2-music-festivals.html


    http://www.thejournal.ie/bravalla-festival-cancelled-rape-sexual-assault-2018-3477017-Jul2017/

    Do try and remember that the statistics keep going even after 2015 as Snopes obviously stopped at.


    In 2015, some 160,000 refugees were granted asylum in Sweden, an idyllic Nordic nation of just 10 million. Tens of thousands more were admitted in 2016, most coming from the war-torn nations in the Middle East. In all, hundreds of thousands have swarmed the tiny country.

    Since their arrival, crime has skyrocketed. In 2015, there were 112 cases of lethal violence — 33 by shooting, compared to just 17 in 2011. Violence against women also soared, as did sexual assaults. Reported rapes in 2016 rose to 6,570, a 13% rise over 2015. The nation now ranks No. 2 in rapes per capita, Defend Europa reported.


    http://www.dailywire.com/news/19337/out-control-43-all-rapes-sweden-are-committed-joseph-curl#





    This also has zero information on the story itself merely a lie about rapes in Sweden in general.

    Try again.

    This is so typical of so many on the left. Fabricate a claim that doesn't exist and attack the source with no evidence that anything in the article is factually incorrect.

    Anything to avoid the subject.
     
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    I generally laugh at jokes (and jokers).
     
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    Anything to avoid the subject.

    The subject seems to be that Muslims rape out of proportion to other groups.

    And that's just false.
     
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    I already have. You have nothing but your word about the source but that's pretty typical of people who can't debate reality.

    Where are all the fantasy fake news stories you claim exist from this link? Post them.
     
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    Which no one ever said.

    Please do not fabricate a claim no one made.

    If you can't debate the story then just admit it and move on. Don't make up claims.
     
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    Where are all the jihad stores that are false @dairyair? Post them.

    You guys just love making up claims to avoid the subject.

    Its always easier to attack the source with fabricated claims of fake stories then run away when you are asked to provide them.
     
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    I've been dealing with these people since way back when. First they'll deny, then 8 years later or so they'll say "So what?"

    It's no use arguing with her. She probably wouldn't really care much even if you shoved irrefutable proof in her face.
     
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    I think it's the clear purpose of the thread; I'm surprised you don't agree.

    But I'm glad you're not labeling one group more dangerous than another. :)

    Doods - young dudes - DO account for most crime across the board however, so I won't cry ageism if that claim is made. :)
     
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    I don't agree because you made it up not based on a single fact.

    Of course not since this story is about Muslims in Sweden not all Muslims.

    That's why your claim is so transparently fabricated.
     
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    This ultimately isn't about whether muslims as a group commit more crime than other groups, it's about whether countries should be taking in high levels of immigration from other parts of the world that are falling apart into pieces. If our countries are becoming more like those other parts of the world, I posit that it is not a good bargain.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree on the thread's possible intent, but good to hear you're not bashing all Muslims. :)
     
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    more those from certain parts of the world than others

    Ironically there tends to be a correlation between how bad a certain country is and how many refugees are fleeing from it.
    But so often that country was bad in the first place because of the values and culture those people hold.
     
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    Undoubtedly.
     
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    Acknowledging the source which the topic derives from is not an off topic reply, especially when the topic comes from a questionable source
     
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    Daily Wire = Ben Shaprio FAKE news source.

    Actual news:




    "Since their arrival, crime has skyrocketed. In 2015, there were 112 cases of lethal violence -- 33 by shooting, compared to just 17 in 2011."

    Compare this to:

    "That's according to Sweden's National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), who have just released their final figures for lethal violence in the country during 2016. The numbers show that there were 106 cases of lethal violence in the Nordic nation last year, a slight decrease compared to the 112 in 2015.

    In 2013 and 2014 meanwhile there were 87 instances, but if the average for the last five years is calculated then it lies at 92 cases of lethal violence per year – the same as the level has been since 2002."

    And

    "The number of cases of lethal violence in Sweden has remained at a relatively constant level over the period of 1977 to 2007 — around 100 cases per year — in spite of the population increase over the same period."

    The author of this article is either very dishonest or very incompetent.



    Here are the numbers from BRÅ.

    2002 98
    2003 81
    2004 102
    2005 83
    2006 91
    2007 111 <-- previous record high
    2008 82
    2009 93
    2010 91
    2011 81
    2012 68 <-- record low
    2013 87
    2014 87
    2015 112 <-- new record high
    2016 106
    2017 91 (as of 4/8/2017, 10% uncertainty )

    Since 2002 there has only been 4 years with over 100 murders, 2 of them where the past two years and 2017 is going strong.

    2012 was a statistical anomaly, just like 2007. I think one should be cautious when including those anomalies in comparisons. Up to 2012 the trend since the 1990s has been less deadly violence. We'll see where is goes from here.

    Feel free to add changes in policy to the timeline.





    In other words, I am using Sweden's actual authority for this type of news. You are using FAKE sources. Try again.
     
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    ^ Massive thread win.
     
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    Looks like the violent crime surpassed the U.S. rate beginning in 1996. That's pretty bad, because there's a lot of violent crime in many areas of the U.S.

    It is interesting, looks like certain types of crimes have increased much more than others. The overall homicide rate hasn't changed much. Maybe because most of the people attacked aren't killed.

    I'm just speculating here but it could be because of the extremely light prison sentences (even for rape). Since the criminal knows the sentence is going to be relatively light there's a much stronger incentive for them not to kill. (whereas in another country like the U.S. the punishment for their crime might not be all that less worse than if they killed someone)
     
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    It would be very interesting to see those statistics broken down between whites and non-whites.

    But of course to some people that's a worse crime than murder.
     
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    Yes, it's very hard to find statistics on this.

    But I did come across this, an old police report from the capital of another country bordering Sweden, it might give us some idea.

    Crime statistics for the city of Oslo 2011
    Oslo Police District, Violence in the Global City - Changes in reported rapes and sexual culture in Oslo, Marianne Sætre and Veslemmøy Grytdal, Strategic Staff Oslo Police District, May 2011

    Under the section "Gjerningsmannens alder etter landbakgrunn" (Person's age by country of origin) on p64, there is a graph showing the age distribution of suspected or accused rapists. For 16-19 year old rapists, 15 of them were non-ethnic Norwegian and only one of them was ethnic Norwegian. For 20-29 year olds, 46 of them were non-Norwegian, while 17 of them were Norwegian. For 30-39 year old rapists, most of them were still non-Norwegian. As one gets into the older categories, the number of rapes drops off dramatically, probably because all the non-European migrants did not start coming and having many children until about the 1980s.​

    According to official figures released in 2008, non-European migrants accounted for 25 percent of Oslo’'s population.
    So if you do a little extrapolation you can come up with your own figures.
     
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    It could be fake news

    Or it could be the type of story that muslim refugee apologists in our media choose to ignore for political reasons
     
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    Well it was mostly the Swedish women who wanted them there, so I guess it's something they'll have to deal with themselves? It just shows how effing stupid they were? So much for the legendary Swedish liberalism?
     
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