Take guns away from those who are potentially violent

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can someone explain to me how it makes sense to make it a crime for a "potentially violent" person to have a gun?
    I mean, you think they would respect the law, but also start shooting in a crowded public place?

    Some might try to make the argument "well maybe we'll catch them before they commit the mass shooting". Yeah, how likely is that?

    So it seems to me that such a law would be more likely to just send a bunch of people to prison for not going along with the plan.
     
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    everyone is "potentially" violent given the right circumstances
     
  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a very slippery slope when you begin trying to "identify" particular people, people who have not committed a serious crime yet. That's pretty much the exact same type of logic for gun control over an entire population, just scaled back a little bit.
     
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    I just thought I'd leave this here for whoever was complaining about menstruation and violence.

    Actually menstruation does equal violence, according to science.

    This study goes into great detail, finding, for example that 84% of violent crime committed by women in this study was committed during menses.

    https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5733&context=jclc

    Here is another detailing the relationship between violent behavior and menses.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3634788/

    So, with valid scientific proof that women are more violent during menses, should their guns be taken away during that period?
     
  5. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Should rights be taken away on the basis of race? How about that?
    If, for example, some study comes out showing transgender Eskimos between the ages of 21 to 26 are 15 times more likely than the general population to be the perpetrator of a gun homicide, should we take away their rights?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'Potentially violent' is a term for future crimes.

    Do you really want to be presumed guilty until you are able to prove your innocence?
     
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    Libs want to take guns away from conservatives by any means possible

    If someone is too dangerous to own a gun they should be locked up

    And that requires due process
     
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    Public schools are bastions of liberalism

    The adminstrators and teachers let cruz devolve into a murderer

    And when he did snap the deep blue local sheriff had only the cowardly Officer Friendly in a position to stop him

    Who instead stood by doing nothing
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can find five people on this board that would say you are violent. Got any guns?
     
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    Take his free speech rights instead if he doesnt have guns

    Or dont let him vote
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Great idea. I forgot lefties are afraid of guns.

    Perhaps a new thread,
    "Take away the right to free speech if five people say you are violent."
     
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    Take away your freedom of religion if 5 people say you are a terrorist.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Take away the right of unreasonable searches and seizures if five people say you are violent"

    See how this works kids?
     
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    You should really think about saying things like that. When the comparison is so far off it makes it seem like you had nothing to say.
     
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    The cops and security guard? Hello?

    Because "liberals" forever and ever amen. No matter whatever's happend.
     
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    Maybe not letting them vote at all is too harsh

    Letting them vote just once per election is better
     
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    Another Ad Hom?? Love these they always show that I am winning

    You know that when your opposition is reduced to Ad Homs they have run out of argunement on the actual subject
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The comparison is right on.
    Both are written into the Bill Of Rights.
     
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    How about prosecuting criminals?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I doubt if many of our Australian friends have ever spent time in Queensland where Kangaroos and Camels are often shot from helicopters. Many in the land from down under think something different that what is reality.
     
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    Stats and facts

    Well there are Stats and facts that clearly back your statement!
     
  22. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Bower is a Queenslander and is very very aware that we shoot ferals not people

    And in the Territory they shoot Buffalo from choppers as there is no other way to cull the ferals
     
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    You refer to yourself, about 6 months ago - eh?

    Tell us again what firearms cannot be used to commit armed robbery.
     
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    You do?
    With what firearms, and how can they not be used to commit armed robbery?
     
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    That school and sheriff dept are run by liberals because the clunty is liberal
     

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