Ted Cruz is smart.........a smart conman

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    "How can a smart guy like Cruz misunderstand the political lay of the land this badly? How can he be ignorant of the replete polling on the topic and the recent history of these face-offs?

    Well, maybe he understands something else. Perhaps he is as smart as his admirers claim and he is wildly ambitious, hoping to draw attention and fundraising dollars for his windmill-tilting scam. Later in the CNN interview he made it clear he was playing to the base on this one:

    We need 41 Republicans in the Senate or we need 218 Republicans in the House. And that will only happen, and you know what, this fight is likely to heat up in the month of September. That’s going to be when the battle is engaged. And I’m convinced there’s a new paragon in politics that actually has Washington very uncomfortable. . . . And I believe if we see a grass-roots tsunami, that is going to cause Republicans and Democrats to listen to the people.

    And who better to pull the tsunami to shore than Cruz, right? Send money! Come to his events! Become outraged when the “unprincipled” Republicans won’t support him!

    Cruz is emblematic of a group of conservative hucksters peddling outrage and paranoia who contend that the strength of the political resistance they generate is equivalent to their own importance, and that one dramatic, losing standoff after another is the pinnacle of political success. Alas, they confuse their own fame with achievement and divisiveness with progress."----Jennifer Rubin "Right Turn"

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/08/26/how-smart-is-ted-cruz/

    I think Jennifer nailed it. At this point, even Cruz may not believe his own crap, but he sees it as a way to get the Base to rally unto him for his obvious 2016 Presidential run.

    The Base may believe the President would defund his own health care plan....or that a Gov't Shutdown would NOT hurt Republicans.

    But like any good conman....Cruz isn't REALLY falling for his own con.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I dont know about all of that...

    Obama very well might defund his healthcare plan.

    Its way way behind schedule, and wildly unpopular.
     
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    Obama played to his base when he passed ObamaCare.
     
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    I'm not at all sure that, as Rubin claims, John Boehner is putting the monkey on the back of Obama with regards to Obama Care and Cruz is not.
    Lee, Paul, Cruz and the like are forcing the issue of Obama Care to sharply put it before the public what a train wreck of legislation the "Affordable" Care Act really is. And Boehner (and other submissive republicans)? Not so much.

    Even if Obama Care is not defunded, a safe bet with the anti Christ in the Oval Office, the public will be forced to see what a hollow sham it really is.
    And what's wrong with that with the mid terms approaching?
     
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    And the Democrats "never let a serious crisis go to waste" in order to rile their base. No, they would never do such a thing. LMAO! This thread is a joke.
     
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    The leftwad's always tell you who they fear the most.
     
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    Of COURSE, BVWC....he'll repeal his signature piece of legislation so as to save the Democrats who will lose big time in the polls over a Government Shutdown.

    And up is down, left is right, and Olivia Munn is your girlfriend.

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    I'm pretty sure you considered the "Romney Landslide" a safe bet too last Fall. :)

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    Yes, remember how terrified we were of Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Richard Mourdock?

    :D
     
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    Talk about questionable "natural born citizen" status. I believe with his mothers citizenship he qualifies but will all the Obama birthers say about that? My problems with him are about his stances.
     
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    We understand.

    The last time I checked Cruz does not endorse legalizing dangerous drugs that are currently prohibited.
     
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    Not one of the stances I had in mind but thanks for pointing out his nanny state stance on that. I thought the tea party guys were supposed to be Libertarian leaning? Only if it suits them and doesnt (*)(*)(*)(*) off the christians I guess.
     
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    No Economy: Do you support federal spending as a means of promoting economic growth?
    Yes Economy: Do you support providing tax incentives to businesses for the purpose of job creation?

    ^^This kind of contradiction in stances is what shows me where he is coming from.
    http://votesmart.org/candidate/political-courage-test/135705/ted-cruz/#.UhuGVX_KFjM
     
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    I haven't met a Gary Johnson voter yet who wouldn't sell his mother for drug legalization.

    If Cruz were fur it you'd come a runnin.
     
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    Cruz is doing a GREAT JOB of scaring the pants off the Left.

    Bravo!
     
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    You don't know much about conservatives do you?

    I don't support federal sending to promote the economy and I don't want government to pick winners and losers through the tax code.
     
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    Obviously your ignorance on my political motivations is driving your posts. Drug legalization is not what fuels me but I do have opinions on it. Cruz's could champion drug legalization and I would still not vote for him. Sorry to burst your bubble Bubba.
     
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    I know that a vote for Johnson was a vote for Obama and I know Der black Fuhrer was a bad choice for America in 2012.
     
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    If we are being honest, spending federal tax dollars is no different than not collecting them. Neither should be done. Giving a business a tax break or a cash incentive to stimulate job growth will entice the business to do what is best for it financially, not the unemployment rate.
     
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    How is the fact he's FAILING ....scaring anybody? He's got less than one-third of the House Repubs onboard for his plan...and only 14 Repub Senators.

    But, if it makes you feel better....just keep believing it. You DO believe so many false things.
     
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    On the first half I disagree, on the second half I agree. Anyone who voted for Romney, Bachman, Cain in a primary were casting a vote for Obama also using your nonsensical logic. Who's fault is it that the Republican party has not been able to put up a decent candidate for the general election in a while? That is what gave Obama the election, not my vote for a true conservative.
     
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    Mac, how many DIFFERENT ways have you come up with....to convince yourself that Barack Obama "didn't really win" in 2012...or 2008?

    :D
     
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    Simply two names carried him to victory...McCain and Romney.

    Actuelly 2008 would have been hard for even a strong Republican to win. Obama had the hype
     
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    I think it's your fault.

    You wanted Gary Johnson or no one.

    Myself otoh would not have voted for Johnson in the primary but I would have supported him in the general election if he were the republican nominee.
     
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    No,no,no,no...HI2012.....it was "ACORN stealing the election in 2008" that won it for Obama. And "That one Black Panther guy in Philadelphia in 2012" that won it for him last year.

    Gosh.
    :)
     
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    I do find it comical that everytime someone criticizes a tea party candidate that certain people jump out there with the inevitable "They have the left scared!" Do you really think that people like Bachman, Palin, Cruz, Cain, Etc have ever had a chance to win a national election? These people scare me, but not because they are a threat to win, because the are mentally unstable in some cases and the thought of even a crazy upset giving them a win is scary.
     
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    I vote for who I believe the best candidate is. That is what you are supposed to do with your vote. Sorry, I am not a hold your nose voter like you. How could you support a candidate that is for drug legalization? How could you support a candidate the is pro alternative energy and against ethanol subsidies to farmers, is for gay marriage, does not support the Patriot Act, Is seen by some as isolationist?, and the list goes on.
     

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