Tell me...What would YOU do about this economic mess?

Three partners and me are in the midst of securing capital to fund the next phase of a new business. I am pushing for "made in America" for several reasons. Amongst them are the benefits that a new company gets for starting up in the US and specifically, MI.
There is some funding, access to free advice from experts, etc., as well as tax incentives for doing so, but most importantly, I like the idea of "made in America" on everything.

 

Good luck, the more the better.

 

Tell me...What would YOU do about this economic mess?

Nationalise the banks, increase the tax rate above - say $40,000 - to 90%, ban the Tea Party, stop all contributions above $5 to political parties, insist that all employees beliong to a union, disband the armed forces and withdraw from foreign wars that benefit only the rich, close Fox TV and any other station that told lies, make all newspapers carry impartial news - oh, and so on and so on. Why?

 

I want to touch on the bolded part of your rant; do you really think that corporations pay taxes? They are non-entities and as such, pass on all their costs to the consumers who buy their products and services.

This notion that corporations pay taxes is in the realm of idiots. WE pay those corporate taxes. If you raise corporate taxes they will be forced to do one of two things, pay YOU less, charge MORE for their products and services or in some extreme cases, move to a more favorable location where the tax burden is less or zero.

When you hear idiots like Obama clamoring to raise taxes on corporations on the idiot premise that Government has a revenue problem and not a spending problem, think of him as saying he wants to raise YOUR taxes.

When you hear idiots like Obama clamoring to raise taxes on oil corporations on the idiot premise that Government has a revenue problem and not a spending problem, think of him as saying he wants to raise YOUR gas prices.

Protectionism in a global market is an idiot premise as dumb as Obama's regarding taxation.

All this will get us is more economic malaise, higher unemployment and yes, LESS Government revenue from the lack of jobs and growth.

Pass measures that make it attractive to build a factory and take risk, and you will not need protectionism to see jobs return. China can be beaten by making it harder for them to exploit their workers and environment for the sake of quick cheap products and profits.

 

There you have it folks, the real leftist agenda exposed for all to see; any questions?

 

For your country its actually quite simple. If you didnt spend so much on war and supporting your veterans as if they are the only patriots of the wars they are in then you would be better off. If you country would stop demonising the people who fire back at them while they are out of bounds you wouldnt have created an industry of war within your country. A large portion of your people are paid to kill unjustly and hand over their lives because they are dumb.

I dont mean stupid I mean incapable of understanding. Seeing things clearly. Your on a superhero high and need to come down. The attack you sustained ten years ago was not a thousandth of what is in store if you continue on your path. Your country will be nuked eventually especially if they invade another country becasue they think they might be able to make them.

Its impossible to convince an american that america is the threat for WMD. Because that means other nations are justified to invade.

You guys really have it comming to you and I hope it unfolds formidably in the other guys favour.

 

You forgot to mention concentration camps for the resistance.

 

Yes, I have a question.

Why do you constantly falsely stereotype and overgeneralize?

 

Thanks for your opinion. But you have made a mistake in the way you have approached us. Your intention was to share your insight and influence us. But you chose your words unwisely and have merely alienated us.

 

Yes - who pays you? And if nobody does, what on earth are you mouthing this nonsense for? You aren't half mugs: your masters are laughing all the way to the bank.

 

American corporations, some of which might have profits, are struggling and making changes to adapt with the economy...few if any are immuned from this recessionary-type economy. Corporations and workers are two separate issues. Whether a company is hiring or firing is simply guided by the economy and their profits...it's nothing personal about workers being out of work. There is no written loyalty between employees and employers and you know an employee can quit in one second and move on to another employer! It's NOT THE TASK of corporations to create jobs! Corporations/business fill a demand in the marketplace and use domestic labor to produce product/services. A corporation responds to demand...not to political calls to force job creation! The USA has as much to gain as it does to lose...so why not focus on the potential gains? China and India will and are going through the same employer/employee/cost of living/outsourcing, etc. process as did Americans and they will experience all the same evil along with the rewards. You think it's a false assumption for a college graduate to believe they can find work...so your words of wisdom would be what...don't go to school, remain stupid like so many other Americans, give up now??

 

American corporations, some of which might have profits, are struggling and making changes to adapt with the economy...few if any are immuned from this recessionary-type economy. Corporations and workers are two separate issues. Whether a company is hiring or firing is simply guided by the economy and their profits...it's nothing personal about workers being out of work. There is no written loyalty between employees and employers and you know an employee can quit in one second and move on to another employer! It's NOT THE TASK of corporations to create jobs! Corporations/business fill a demand in the marketplace and use domestic labor to produce product/services. A corporation responds to demand...not to political calls to force job creation! The USA has as much to gain as it does to lose...so why not focus on the potential gains? China and India will and are going through the same employer/employee/cost of living/outsourcing, etc. process as did Americans and they will experience all the same evil along with the rewards. You think it's a false assumption for a college graduate to believe they can find work...so your words of wisdom would be what...don't go to school, remain stupid like so many other Americans, give up now??

 

American corporations, some of which might have profits, are struggling and making changes to adapt with the economy...few if any are immuned from this recessionary-type economy. Corporations and workers are two separate issues. Whether a company is hiring or firing is simply guided by the economy and their profits...it's nothing personal about workers being out of work. There is no written loyalty between employees and employers and you know an employee can quit in one second and move on to another employer! It's NOT THE TASK of corporations to create jobs! Corporations/business fill a demand in the marketplace and use domestic labor to produce product/services. A corporation responds to demand...not to political calls to force job creation! The USA has as much to gain as it does to lose...so why not focus on the potential gains? China and India will and are going through the same employer/employee/cost of living/outsourcing, etc. process as did Americans and they will experience all the same evil along with the rewards. You think it's a false assumption for a college graduate to believe they can find work...so your words of wisdom would be what...don't go to school, remain stupid like so many other Americans, give up now??

 

I won't wish harm on anyone but I do not like the preemptive and unprovoked bully march the US is doing today! I can't fathom why supposedly intelligent and advanced people in the US place so much priority on killing and destruction and barbarism? It is logical to believe if the USA unnecessarily harms others...eventually others will harm the USA. Unfortunately the coup de grace might be something nuclear, and ignoring for a moment the immediate death and damage, how will the world respond when this happens?

 

Here we go again. Someone advocating corporations just keep us by the balls as a nation. Who cares if they move? Let them move. If they don't supply jobs, don't pay taxes, what the hell is the point of them being here? Did you forget that as you spew the same ol' tripe? Do you honestly think the one time savings on a built factory is going to equal the annual savings on slave labor? That is nothing more than the same logic of fining those who dump sewage in the ocean 10 grand a day while they save a quarter mil a day doing it. The only reason they are here is to make sure they are in the location of their money making market to be able to bribe the politicians to keep imports coming in free of charge. If it was guaranteed protectionism would never come back they would be gone tomorrow. China is a sovereign nation. There is no way we can control what they do. Free trade is proof our politicians are for sale to the highest bidder, and to think they will do anything to "encourage" better working conditions in China is preposterous at best. The same forces that paid them to eliminate tariffs will be the same forces that pay them to do nothing about China. I would say the proof is in the pudding, but this ain't pudding we're all drowning in. It smells much worse.

 

Please. America, even in bad times, has the market corporations want to access. No one gets rich selling in markets where workers average 136 dollars a month. It is like the pretty girl giving herself away for free, wondering why the guy never proposes. "Why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free?" applies to America and corporations as well. But by all means, keep the present course thinking something will change. You all are so smart it blows my mind.

 

Instead of your diatribe why not try to discuss each issue to understand facts and potential solutions?

At the end of each day...YOU need people, business and government. You cannot eliminate any of them! YOU cannot abuse any of them! YOU must create a situation in which ALL of them work in harmony in order for each of them to be successful on their own merits as well as a single entity...the USA...

 

You don't except rape as the inevitable and work to compromise with the rapist.
You don't except robbery as the inevitable and work to compromise with the robber.
You don't except globalism as the inevitable and work to compromise with the globalist.
Worst case scenario you incarcerate them. Best case scenario, you put them down.

 

There it is folks, it is not the despots, dictators or terrorists who are causing us to engage in wars, it is US!

Good lord, another parrot for idiot leftist talking points. No wonder the terrorists can be so successful in their propaganda, they know what a bunch of dolts they are feeding it to on the left.

 

I don't; why do you troll these threads with your incessant whining and nonsense?

 

Spare me your laughable nonsense; your words expose the lack of rational common sense you bring to every debate; but thank you for at least being honest enough to post it so everyone can see.

Here's another reminder for those who have difficulty following threads, particularly leftists:

 

There you have it folks, shut down corporations and we will all have more jobs.

Carry on; it truly is a waste of time debating someone so incredibly uninformed.