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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who can tell me why blacks and liberals get so upset when a cop kills a black that is a criminal that fights the police and resists arrest, but say NOTHING about a child and other blacks being killed in Chicago?? Why do they get their underlovelies in a wad over a criminal, and not an innocent child? IMO it makes no sense at all!!!!!
     
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    conservative jon New Member

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    It only makes sense when you see where the money goes. Sad as it sounds that's what moves these issues because if it REALLY was about lives mattering then we would be hearing more about blacks killing blacks.
     
  3. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Still waiting for a black person or a liberal to explain this.
     
  4. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Just for kicks and giggles, if I was to take the side of the BLM my argument would be that the criminal justice system is systematically biased in terms of sentencing and arrests. Thus the system takes away Young Men potentially from their families and creates a cycle of fatherless families......thus the crime seen in black communities is the result of a broken justice system.....I do not know I truly believe this , but just explaining it from their view point or what i think their view point is.
     
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    You're mistaken that anyone actually cares. The only thing that's cared about is how these events can be used.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Are you talking about the people killed in gang violence? Protesting against problems in our justice system can actually accomplish something. Gang members are going to look at a bunch of protest signs and FB post and say, "Gee, guys. You know, maybe we are going about this the wrong way. You think we should start wearing body cameras, for our protection and for the protection of the public?"
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That's . . . actually one of the best explanations I've read. This is why they say that black lives matter. Not because they think that only black lives matter, but because they feel like the justice system treats them as if their lives do not matter.
     
  8. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    I think they would do far better if they add ALSO.... that would clear things up for many people...and probably be a far better selling PR move. Instead of making it us versus them situation...forcing people to apologize when they all lives matter, because they do not understand what BLM is trying to say. How about you make it easier on people to jump on board....unless BLM is really a Black pride supremacist group.
     
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    Ya know - I am just going to have to stop all these freaky BLM threads for a minute and interject a little bit of reality.

    There are about 40 million black Americans. Less than 1% of those people have taken the time to march in BLM rallies
    or actively protest in the streets. Just like many Americans, they are going to their jobs and raising their kids and going
    to churches and ball games and vacations.

    So when ya'll start blathering about what "black people," are doing in this country, it becomes quickly obvious that you
    are pulling random crap from your collective asses.

    Now you can return to your frenzied circle-jerk of paranoia.
     
  10. Questerr

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    What does protesting street gangs accomplish?

    Will the Street Gang Senate launch an investigation? Could the Street Gang President be impeached?
     
  11. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So-------------what is the difference between the KKK and the BLM?
     
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    That's the way I've always heard them explain it.

    My conversations with BLM folks have typically been constructive. However, these are all personal acquaintances that I've known for years anyway. Not sure what it would be like if I were having the same conversation with strangers.

    I'm a little sympathetic given my background. Even though I'm white, I grew up in a town that wasn't exactly subtle about its racism. Still isn't, really. The "If you are a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), don't let the sun set on you" sign is gone, but I've had security follow my wife and I around the grocery store because they thought it was suspicious to see an interracial couple.
     
  13. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Do not commit crimes and you not have to worry about the justice system.
     
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    The BLM, taken at their own word, is seeking equal treatment, because they feel they have been treated unequally. KKK preaches racial supremacy. I've encountered both groups. One group treated me with respect, the other has threatened me with violence on more than one occasion.
     
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    If that is they way they explain it, why are they not using that word? That is my main issue with this movement, why not simply add "Also"? I think the reason is that BLM is in reality a Black Power movement, not a equality but supremacy movement.
     
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    The idea that abuse of power does not exist is pure fantasy.

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    The idea that abuse of power does not exist is pure fantasy.

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    Because it was never really an issue until people started falsely inserting the word "only" instead.

    Then why don't they use the word "only"?
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Because saying Black Lives Matter excludes other groups, only is not needed to further convey that message. Adding Also would help people understand the situation far better, and maybe even give it more support.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neither one has threatened me, and I dont care for either one. The country is far better off without either.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it is. "Kyle is tall" does not exclude anyone else from being tall. "Peppers are hot" does not exclude any other food from being hot. "France is north of the equator" does not exclude all other countries from being north of the equator. "My keys are in my pocket" does not exclude any other item from being in my pocket. "I have a Beatles album" does not exclude me from owning any other album.

    Kyle is tall =/= Only Kyle is tall
    Peppers are hot =/= Only peppers are hot
    France is north of the equator =/= Only France is north of the equator
    My keys are in my pocket =/= Only my keys are in my pocket
    Black lives matter =/= Only black lives matter

    I doubt it. People who try to speak for them and ignore what they have to say for themselves aren't going to stop just because a new word was added.
     
  20. Right is the way

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    I never said it did, read my post again real slow and this time think. Do not commit a crime and you do not have to worry about the justice system. I inadvertently left out do in my first post sorry. Know do you get where I am going it does not matter what the justice system is like if you do not break the law. If you do not break a law you will not be arrested. Simple idea do not understand what you are not following here. And do you have any proof that there is abuse in the system?
     
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    This statement can only be true if there are no abuses of power. Sorry, but that is a fantasy.

    Unless there are abuses of power.

    Another complete fantasy.

    Nor do I understand how you think that false arrests don't exist.

    If anyone is naive enough to claim that there are no dirty cops, lawyers or judges in existence, I suppose I could provide examples. But who seriously holds such a belief?
     
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    To you?

    Probably very little but then....

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    Really? Tell that to the kid that was shot for "driving black" with a legal hand gun he told the cop he had.
     
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    I don't think it is a stretch in logic to say that an awful lot, and probably even a majority of African Americans support the BLM movement.
     
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    Law enforcement should not be held to a higher standard than criminals? Law enforcement should be trained to handle would be violent situations in a way that reflects the higher standard. Law enforcement should not react with emotion or personal bias and instead with the rules of engagement which vary from state to state of course.

    Don't you understand that social issues are separate from law enforcement protocol and must be dealt with on a very different platform and by agencies and community outreach programs that exist to address these issues?

    Pretty elementary common sense and LOGIC here...:roll:
     
  25. Right is the way

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    Show me the kid that was shot just for being black.
     

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