Tell me why

easy, black lives only matter to leftists when leftists can exploit them for their political advantage.
A black criminal gunning down a black child with an illegal weapon points away from their goals not towards it. Whites killing blacks and blacks assasinating police is exactly what they want. If only more of the black community could see how Obama and the left ate using their lives as pawns in their political chess game.

 

It's not that easy or so simple. Through our gratuitous use of criminal penalty to enforce administrative functions we have created a kafkaesque system that ensnares non criminal people and spits them out as convicted criminals.

Think of the registration on your car. Let it laps, it happens. Get a citation for the expired registration. Fail to pay the fine on time or miss a payment on your fine payment program. License suspended. Get arrested for driving to work. You are now a criminal.

What started this progression? Revenue, it's the only reason for requiring yearly renewal. Governmental insanity. Nothing associated with inability to pay a tax should by legal possess land anyone in jail. There are other mechanisms to generate revenue that don't require police enforcement, shift lost tag revenue to the gas tax.

This is the crap we aren't thinking about and how it effects people when there are better less intrusive ways.

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Leftists already advocate the thing that will have the greatest effect on ending black on black crime:

The end to the prohibition of drugs

 

So you are saying ending illegal drugs will make criminals not be criminals? Ok what are all of these gang bangers going to do once you legalize drugs? Lets hear the plan.

 

The primary thing street gangs fight over is the massive profits from illegal drug sales. Make those massive profits disappear and you gut their funding and cut their main impetus for fighting.

 

Well, there are many theories as to why, but I am more in favor of this idea of being a victim of the government is the new "hawtness" lol.

And the media portraying each and every controversial police shooting as opposed to the criminals doing criminal acts plays a factor as well.

 

Phillo Castille

 

Wrong.When a policeman shoots someone who he shouldn't have...he does that in OUR name and he's paid by US.

That is what I take exception to.

What can I do about gang violence besides advocate for the end of drug prohibition?

 

One should never expect that the selling of bootleg cigarettes is punishable by death. Get real...there are major problems with law enforcement and some of the knuckle draggers they allow on the force. Just as the quality of many services and much merchandise has declined, law enforcement and what is expected has followed suit. If any sector could improve by the use of robotics, I'm beginning to believe that law enforcement is one of them.

 

So you know the cop was wrong without even looking at the facts. Fact both black guys were armed and both of them refused to obey the police officers direct commands. How about you be cop for a day and patrol these areas and show us how to handle these armed men in these situations.

 

No one is getting upset when a cop kills a criminal who is an actual danger to the cop or other citizens.

What people rightly get upset about is cops killing people who are NOT a danger and if they've committed any crime at all...have committed minor misdemeanors etc.

So let's stop pretending otherwise

 

If the gun was in their hands, you'd have a point. Without that, it's speculation that these men were reaching for their guns. And one was shot after being asked for his ID and he then informed the officer he had a gun and a permit for it. Should he have informed the officer of this before reaching for his ID, perhaps but again, no gun in hand so it's speculation.

 

We have a historical reference. What did rum runners do when prohibition was repealed? Crime rates didnt rise so either they turned into excellent thieves of invisible stuff, superb kidnappers of aliens and master of exporting marbles form children OR they found a legitimate job.

Alpha, these are order takers, these soldiers selling drugs. The customer seeks them out, they just have to stand on a corner. Zero skill and none of it transferable to more complex criminal behavior. The money will dry up in an instant. There won't be any black market cash swerling around to fund criminal endeavors.

My take.

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Precisely, want to stop gang violence? Take away their funding, by legalization of drugs, their number one commodity.

 

If we could, for one month, get video of each and every violent death of a black man, like we do with police involved use of force, then edit them together and stream the montage for the nation to see. It would visually put things into perspective, one wouldn't see the police involved shootings go by, they wouldnt even blip the radar screen.

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Yea we dont know, neither do cops because theybdont have xray vision nor ESP so thats why all of us intelligent people know and have been taught since childhood to never disobey a police officer because they dont know what you are reaching for and are trained to protect themselves as well as innocent people nearby. Somehow millions and millions of black people make it through the day without being killed by police. Its always the guys doing something wrong and disobeying the police that get shot. That doesnt mean there arent bad cops, there are. They just arent in the numbers the media likes to portray. Again miliions and millions of blacks make it through the day can you explain why they arent getting shot by cops hunting them as the media portrays? More blacks got killed in chicago last month at the hands of other blacks, where is the outrage?

 

I'm not pushing that narrative. At least with Philando Castille, he was following the officer's orders, while informing the officer that he did have a gun and a permit. So he's at least an example that rarely, you can be shot even when you follow police orders. I think that's the source of this new outrage, similar to how the vietnam war became a hot topic. With the technological reality that everyone has a camera on them, these instances can be shown with some degree of apparent regularity.

 

Wrong! You have no way of knowing that. Thats why we have a justicw system that looks at each case on great detail. Do you want to be found guilty before you even have a trial? Its a yes or no.

 

Right, this is all speculation, not judgement. However, from the video it's quite clear again, no gun in hand so we at least know that.

 

no that is not known either. In some shots its said a gun is seen. Thats why we have a system to look at these things carefully. You also dont need a gun in hand, thats too late for an officer to react. Thats why they instruct you very clearly to keep your hands where they can see them.

 

And according the video, which is all any of us have to speculate upon, the original command was to show ID, then he was informed of the gun. Of course if the guy's saying he has a gun and a permit, there will possibly be one in the frame. The officer clearly has the advantage when the gun is already trained on the guy, so if there was a gun in hand this would be a clear case as he was a clear threat. This is really the only case I think has any merit as the ones prior yes show physical altercation and what not. Such isn't displayed in this particular video.

 

FALSE! The video starts after the shooting. Please provide your new video.

 

Yeah it does start after the fact, and from what can be seen, no gun in hand, seat belt still on, no apparent threat was established.

 

so how do you know what the cop said? According to you, you know what the original command was. How did you know this if the video started after the shooting? The answer is...you dont know because you cant know. In that same video other people have speculated they do see a gun. Are they wrong? If so how do you know?

 

A gun where, in his hands? On his belt? Or on the floor near where it'd be likely to have fallen if he held it when he was shot? That's the relevant position of the gun, to show he was holding it when he was shot. Audio transcript shows that the ID was the purpose of the traffic stop, and the women filming stated that he'd asked for the ID. With those two, we can speculate that the command was to show ID.