TERROR 'HAVEN' Taliban is ALREADY offering ‘safe haven’ to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan in bid to create

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flying a flag doesn't impose squat. The Brits did far worse than fly a colorful flag. They tried to build a "functioning state", which gave birth to Arab Nationalism. The Brits chose the Sunnis as the folks who should control a nation which was 60% Shiite and had a large Kurdish population, and erected border to close in the three scorpions in one bowl. Like US in Afghanistan, the locals were supposed to stand on their own feet, but they were dependent on the British air every time
     
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    It was the Syrian soldiers that did the fighting and defeated ISIS. Russia gave them air support as well as training, Intelligence and technical help.
    What a bunch of garbage. It only shows our governments low opinion of the intelligence of the American people. Why would the Syrians use chemicals, knowing that the Americans would use it as an excuse to bomb them at a time when they were winning the battle? A little common sense here.

    The first false flag chemical attack outside Damascus was committed by the Turks and Saudis, and they were furious with Obama for not bombing the Syrians. The British told him not to, because Russia had proof that the components were not in Assad's arsenal. The second false flag attack, when Trump did bomb Assad's army, the chemicals were prepared by the British and the White Helmets. In both cases, the intent was to help ISIS to overthrow Assad - the duly elected president.

    Washington did free Raqqa, and unlike Russia that took 3 months to free Aleppo so as to avoid civilians casualties, we did it in 3 days and bombed them right into the stone age. I don't know if we ever buried the bodies.

    I assume ISIS was warned to leave, and that it was the Syrian civilians there that suffered. I know Assad was furious with the carnage and the destruction of the city.
     
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    1) yes .. was Russia and the Syrian Army that defeated ISIS
    2) Somehow Chlorine and Saran got conflated in the "Red Line" which was wierd but yes . at least a few of the "chemical attacks" were false flags - orchestrated by the White Helmets .. propaganda arm of the Islamic State.

    There were some chlorine attacks that I think killed people - not saying either side is responsible and it matters not as the number killed was less than 100.. which is ridiculous.

    If a Nation state is using chemical weapons - like Saran - you kill 5000 - not 100. Check out when Saddam and Rotten Ronnie used Saran on the Kurds and Iran .. that is what using chemical weapons looks like. Depleted Uranium in Fallujah is also what using chemical weapons looks like - albeit a long term rather than sudden death .. nothing like contaminating a city with radiation to win a battle - the enemy fighting back with sticks and stones by relative comparison..

    3) Raqqa was one of the main headquarters of the Islamic State .. a protectorate of the US until the very end - after Russia/Syrian army had taken back all the other cities.. defeating ISIS Then we turned on our proxy army and took Raqqa with the Kurds doing the ground fighting .. USAF bombing the place to smitherines - folowed by crying about Russia dropping bombs on Islamic State forces .. Obama claiming they were "Moderates" - the famous "Moderate Rebel Lie"
     
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    You have no idea why we're hated by the Muslims, and why Russia, which is a devout Christian nation is not? Wake up!


    The British drew the lines in the sand and separated the different Arab tribes to weaken them. That way they could be easily controlled. They also made sure that some nations would be more prosperous than the others. That way the wealthier ones wouldn't want to unite with them.

    If nations didn't have their own wealth like for instance Northern Ireland or Cyprus, Britain would give them beneficial trade deals. That way the North wouldn't want to unite with a poorer Ireland and Cyprus wouldn't want to unite with a poorer Greece.

    We've been following the same policy, and it's why we broke up Yugoslavia and then Serbia. We tried to do the same to Russia by supporting the terrorists in the Chechnya wars, and it's the reason Russia decided to help Assad and stop the break of Syria.


    Putin also objected to the no fly zone in Libya, but he was not president at the time, Medvedev was and he was deceived. This is why he lost the next election and Putin won. The US promised Medvedev they wouldn't bomb Libya and they did, and that we wouldn't kill Ghadaffy and we did.


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    Assad had been using chemical weapons even before Russia helped. Deny it all you want, but the incidents are on record.
     
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    Yes I do, and its not because someone flew a rainbow flag. 29 nations legalized it before us but radical muslims don't give a rip about them. They hated us long before we legalized gay marriage. Wake up!!
     
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    Assad had been using chemical weapons even before Russia helped. Deny it all you want, but the incidents are on record.
    Wrong again. I suggest you look how chemical weapons are deployed and the individual yields on each.
     
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    You look how they are deployed .. as a chemist - I am well versed in such things - actually have some understeanding of what I read .. unlike you.. but why have you moved the goalposts .. as chemical weapons is not the discussion

    Obama's support for the Islamic State is the discussion .. arm in arm with Brother El Saud and Al Qaeda ... and the fact that you had no clue that Putin was fighting Al Qaeda/ISIS in Syria .. and that it was Russia and the Syrian Army who defeated your beloved Islamist Jihadist Proxy army.

    Putin has done far more than Obama/Biden to fight terrorism - and far less to promote it. You been sucked in by the Owellian doublespeak .. State sponsored propaganda kool-aid.
     
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    On what records? The ones we control? You forget one thing: We lie!

    Before the first false flag chemical attack in Syria, the truck carrying the chemical components was stopped at the Syrian border. Before Fidan, the head of Turkey's MIT could tell them to let the truck go through, Gulen's newspaper Zatan got whiff of it and it was brought up in the Turkish parliament by Erdogan's opposition. So there is no way that Obama did not know who was behind it.

    Afterwards Russia with China's help removed all the chemicals from Assad's arsenal, and it was checked and agreed by the UN and the US.



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    I'm sure you are all that, it's obvious. :)
     
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    I understand, the reality of some things is too much for some people. :)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aww .. got to try to shoot the messenger .. Hurts when that necessary illusion bubble pops .. but, you need to make a friend of pain .. El Saud is not your Brother .. nor the Spawn - Al Qaeda - ISIS - Taliban - Boko Haram - and to many others to count -in their quest to bring more territory under Saud Style Strict Sharia .. a place that makes China look like a bastion of civil liberty and freedom.

    These are not our friends .. pity you think otherwise.
     
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    Why you telling Jen that "Her Reality" has been challenged when it is you who had the necessary illusion buble go "Pop" - and your still in the denial stage... "no no .. it cant be true" .. She told you same thing I did. Was Brother El Saud and Obama supporting that Islamic State .. Syrian Army was the "good guys" in that fight .. the "moderate" people of Syria" fighting the radical Islamist proxy arm - armed supported and supplied by Obama/Biden and co. - a "Holy War" - to turn Syria from Secular to Strict Sharia Vunderland - dark age style .. of which we got taste for 3 or so years.

    Why do you support that scum ?
     
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    So says the one supporting a dictator that either imprisons or kills his political opponents.
     
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    Triggered much :)
     
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    Of course I supported Putin's efforts to rescue Syria from the Islamist proxy army set against it .. and what Putin does in his private life factors not into the equation. I stand for essential liberty - separation of Church and State - "Secularism"


    The problem you face - is why you are on the side of Al Qaeda and ISIS. What do you stand for mate ?
     
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    You are projecting again. It is not me who supports the Al Qaeda- ISIS - that would be you apologizing up and down for your beloved El Saud and brothers Obama/Biden . Your inability to deal with your own relection in the mirror is what has done the triggering.

    So don't demonize the one holding up the mirror .. as it is the reflection with which you quarrel.
     
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    What do you stand for mate ?
    Reminding people about the murderer Putin :)
     
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    I told you what I stand for - and it is not "Putin" Freedom and Secularism.

    I realize this is opposed to your love of the Islamic State .. and your hate for Putin's action in removal of this state from Syria.

    It is true that Putin murdered many Soldiers of the Islamic State - I do not hold that against him like you do.
     
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    Fox is reporting 24 California schoolchildren still stranded in Kabul. Guess those kids were dumb? Leave em?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did I say about leaving people behind? Read the post you replied to (above).

    Are the kids dumb? No, I would say the parents who send their kids to a war-zone are incredibly irresponsible, and yes, - STUPID.

    What do you think? Would you send your kids to a warzone thinking the government will surely protect them?

    We just lost 12 service men who were sent to evacuate people who would not leave in time, or worse, - send their kids IN.
     

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