Terrorist attack at Finsburgh Park

In my life time you weren't allowed to publicly laugh about Christianity either.
Comedy has broken down that barrier and is again doing so with Islam.

These social changes, they come from the arts.

Monty Python pretty much ended blasphemy laws here. The Life of Brian. Also, Jerry Springer the musical and so on.


These guy are new arrivals. They'll catch up quick enough.

 

These are your feelings and have nothing to do with fact.

Even atheists have values and they have to get those values somewhere, or they'll be forced to adopt new ones. We've seen through political correctness, as an example, how easy it is to go from defending free speech to speaking out against it, arguing each side with the same fervor. That change came about in just one generation. If you're old enough you'll have noticed many other changes as well.

 

Never heard of that. What would be the consequences if you did?

They haven't seem to have caught up yet. In fact it's the hosts who are having to adapt.

 

No, what I am saying, and I said it quite clearly, is that people self-identify as 'Christian' because that's the only option open to them, given the alternative faiths in surveys. If they were asked, 'are you a practising Christian', I suggest the answer would be very different if they were honest. Although, technically, I am a Roman Catholic I'm about as religious as my cat.

 

So based on your statements, if you were asked "What religion are you"

Would you answer Catholic? I was raised Christian and I sure wouldnt

 

Values? You mean like the common sense ones regarding getting on with your life without pissing off other people? You don't need religion to teach you that. Religion is dying because people have become sophisticated enough to figure out that Bronze Age fairy tales have little or no relevance in the 21st century.

 

No, I would say 'none', because I have no 'faith' whatsoever. If I was asked what faith I was brought up and educated in, I would reply 'Catholic'.

 

Religion isn't dying. Islam is growing at a rapid rate. I doubt you're too upset about that.

 

So then you agree that the UK has a higher amount of religious people than non religious.

The poll is questioned as "...people calling themselves Christian...." which is exactly what you are saying.

So, my original point, should themajority of Christians be able to tell you non Christians what to do?

The poster clearly said "This is my country...."

According to statistics, it is still of a majority Christian. I hope you would agree that is not "his" country and they should not "get out", considering he is the minority

 

What evidence do you have that 'Islam is growing at a rapid rate'? You have none, as usual.

 

Muslim "growth" is at a higher rate than the average birth rate throughout the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth

While it is a growing religion, I don't know if I would see that as a problem

 

Oh FFS. Are you incapable of understanding simple English? Do you not understand the distinction between self-identifying as 'christian', and being a practising one?

 

Personal attack noted....

The question is calling yourself a Christian.

I just asked you directly if you saw yourself as a Christian, since you aid you do not practice. You answered no.

Why are the rest of these people so different from you? You yourself just proved my point (in English)

Kinda self serving to veer the other way now that it doesn't fit your agenda....

 

Yes, growing because of population growth, not for any other reason. I think you'll find that Brewskier was alluding to something completely different, completely unrelated to population. He's a racist who hates Muslims; his post history is the evidence.

 

Of course I do. I almost always have sources to back up my arguments. You should have learned that by now with how often I refute your nonsense.



http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...e-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/

 

What 'personal attack'? Grow a couple.

 

Yes, because of population growth. And so what? Why do you see this as something to be feared, as you quite evidently do? Well?
Oh, and by the way, your cited figures are estimates, not hard data.

 

There are more people practicing Islam per year than there are humans being born, I guess I will just leave it at that since I definitely don't want to get into any argument or discussion regarding race. Just pointing out numbers

Happy racist debating!

 

Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth, its embarrassing.

" Are you incapable of understanding simple English? " - Obviously a personal attack to my "intelligence", we are speaking in English so you obviously know I do speak English.

lol

Even, "Grow a couple" is a personal attack and it is hilarious how you try to duck and weave to lie to us about it.

But again, i know that personal attacks come out of desperation or the inability to accurately articulate your argument. Nicely done!

 

So what if the growth of religion is coming from population growth? You made the argument that "religion is dying", and I proved you wrong.

Didn't you just a minute ago say religion was "Bronze Age fairy tales have little or no relevance in the 21st century."? Well?

Thanks for proving my argument, though.

 

Population growth 1.1%
Muslim religion growth 1.8%

 

Oh, so an entire worldwide census of 7 billion people has to be done before you accept the results?

Islam is growing rapidly, like I said. You don't mind it, which is why you just defended it a minute ago, - also, just like I said. Your criticisms of religion are specific to Christianity, not Islam. I just wanted to point that out.

 

I have a dislike of ALL organised faiths, which my post history will clearly demonstrate. Unlike you, Brewskier, I don't mind at all. People will believe whatever they choose to believe, and as long as I'm not personally affected I'm not about to start on a campaign of ignorant bigotry such as yours.

 

Wow, that's a startling statistic! Better get that bunker built.

 

No. My reference to religion dying was to Christianity which, if you had bothered to read my earlier exchanges with another poster, would be crystal clear. So should my reference to the Bronze Age (Christianity). Islam came much later; over 500 years later, in fact. You really should pay closer attention.