Terrorists fire rockets from Gaza hospital

In the US, Israel-Palestine is one of those issues you can't affect by "choosing" between Republican OR Democrat in the voting booth; both major parties here are dominated by the richest 1% of voters, and arms sales and oil sales have much to do with acquiring private fortunes. Self-interest among economic elites explains much of why Europe and the US allow Israel to continue with its policy of "creeping annexation" in Palestine; I thinks Jews have expanded their "buffer zone" in Gaza during their latest blitzkrieg. Look for their next incursion around the time of the next US Presidential election in November 2016 unless the world says otherwise before then.

 

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Funny how brainwashed people defend terrorism by one group of people and condemn it by another. I wonder how God will look upon those people that support the slaughter of innocence. Any way here in America English is the language which we speak, African-American people added a twist which we now call Ebonics. I suppose you would say Ebonics is the same as English. No one speaks Hebrew from the biblical times. Just because they invented a new language and called it Hebrew doesn't make it the same language. I'm getting bored with the brainwashed so I am going to leave you with a mission. Your name says free man. I challenge you to prove that. Turn off your TV and turn on your PC. Type into the search bar the bankruptcy of the United States. Find the pdf files of the actual case hit download files and read until your eyes hurt and then read some more. When you have read it all come back and tell me how you are a free man. I will be eagerly awaiting your response.

 

For you <EDUCATION> there is no 67 Borders <EVER> it used to be an <ARMISTICE LINE>... You are showing your lack of knowledge <sciolist>...

 

Must be lonely living in your world. Everyone else knows what I meant though I guess I should have said pre 67 borders. Those which were the basis of the peace talks.

You can fight and scream but if you don't start doing the honourable thing it is going to be far harder for you and without question eventually a one state solution with equal rights for everyone.

 

Here's a related solution I hadn't heard of before calling for Parallel States covering all the area between the Jordan and the Mediterranean:

"In a Parallel States structure, one Israeli state and one Palestinian would both cover the whole area between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River.

"In such a scenario, military, political, and economic barriers would be lifted, and a joint security and defense policy, a common and equitable economic policy, and joint and harmonized legislation would replace existing divisions.

"Such a structure would allow both for an independent Palestinian state and for Israel to be both Jewish and democratic at the same time.

"It would bring an end to occupation and would permit free movement over the whole area for both peoples, as well as providing a vision for an end of conflict."

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/181181/mossberg-parallel-states

 

One sides strategy is to inflict as much damage to civilians as possible, both of their own and the enemies. The other sides strategy is to avoid civilian death as much as possible. It is very clear who the good guys and bad guys are in this conflict. Those that defend hamas are using this conflict as a launching point for their racist hatred. It is fashionable to hate Israel right now and people that lack the capacity for critical thinking are doing exactly what Hamas strives to achieve when they strategically place their citizens in harms way in search of sympathy. Every militant that is killed can be claimed a civilian since they do everything wearing civilian clothing and operate from within civilian buildings surrounded by civilian women and children. If Israel was craving genocide they could have already done it without breaking a sweat. The only side that is showing restraint and rational behavior is being torn apart by the media because the angry crowds with pitchforks demand it, and it sells lots of advertising. I respect your desire to be socially acceptable and sympathize with the terrorists, but it will never make it right.

 

It isnt enough in my opinion. They need to just level the place since the government is hell bent on destruction and the people cant be trusted to elect a government that seeks peace.

 

If someone was spending their every waking minute trying to destroy me I would isolate them too. Shouldnt be long before Hamas starts wearing Israeli uniforms and filming themselves executing their own people for the video footage of Israeli atrocities. Funny thing is, some people will fall for it hook, line and sinker.

 

Israel doesnt appear to be very secure with the amount of rockets being fired into it on a daily basis. Your use of the word guarantee is laughable.

 

Strange, the offer never consulted Israel on the workings of it which were designeted to do nothing more thab placate Saddam Hussenin who was using israel as a deflection from his own transgressions. In the proposal, right of return was a given in which the state of Israel would have everysucide bomber and rocket firer running in the streets of every city town and village, how wuuld those 22 states protect Israel from that Margo?


How?

And how Margo?

It was a crap offer for an easyout for Saudi Araia and they all knew it was crap so they signed onto it just ecause they knew it was crap and wanted to go on record that they offered something.

 

22 .. Yes twenty two Arab countries !!!
And the bastards keep their hatred propaganda against the Israelis.
22 Arab Muslim countries against One small Jewish state.

 

Strange, the offer never consulted Israel on the workings of it which were designeted to do nothing more thab placate Saddam Hussenin who was using israel as a deflection from his own transgressions. In the proposal, right of return was a given in which the state of Israel would have everysucide bomber and rocket firer running in the streets of every city town and village, how wuuld those 22 states protect Israel from that Margo?


How?

And how Margo?

It was a crap offer for an easyout for Saudi Arabia and they all knew it was crap so they signed onto it just because they knew it was crap and wanted to go on record that they offered something.

 

Mmmm, that's strange. Your alarmism is difficult to reconcile with mixed official Israeli statements some of which minimize the rocket threat. As assistant professor at the School of Media and Public Affairs at George Washington University, William Youmans contends:

"First, when the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration, which regulates air traffic, stopped U.S. commercial flights to Tel Aviv after rockets landed near the airport, Netanyahu grew incensed and suggested the move was the Obama administration’s tactic to pressure Israel to end the assault on Gaza.

Second, Israel says its Iron Dome missile defense system is effective at stopping incoming projectiles 86 percent of the time. However, its enthusiastic praise for the technological marvel of this system is not congruent with the depictions of the mortal threat of Hamas’ rockets. This claim of having an effective shield against rockets is even more difficult to square with the scale of Israel’s destruction in the Gaza Strip. It raises serious questions about the proportionality of Israel’s actions. It is another reason to object to the ongoing military onslaught that has so far left more than 1,000 Palestinians dead and another 5,000 injured&#8202; —&#8202; of whom an estimated 70 percent are civilians.

Third, there is a marked difference between what Israeli leaders say in English to the world and what Israeli representatives say in Arabic to Arab audiences. In fact, the message in Arabic is quite the opposite of the one in English — something Israeli leaders and advocates used to relish in pointing out about the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat.

But the Israeli military has also been sending mixed signals through social media. The Israeli military spokesman for Arabic media, Avichay Adraee, tweeted in Arabic to his more than 119,000 followers is that the rockets are “weak” and a “failure” and that the threat is exaggerated by Hamas.

His message is triumphalist and stridently plays down the threat. “As usual, rockets fired by Hamas exploded in the sky,” he noted in one tweet. He has also claimed that Hamas does not have many rockets and that its rocket system is not working.

On July 21, Al Jazeera board member Elham Bader encountered similar dismissals when she asked Adraee about a bombardment of an Israeli settlement.

“What did the rocket accomplish?” Adraee replied, adding that the entire “resistance is a failure.” “It either fell in an empty space or has been shot in the air.”

Even the English account for the Israeli military has started lampooning the inefftiveness of the rockets, claiming that 10 percent of them land in Gaza itself. However, unlike the Arabic account, many of the English language tweets have been in line with the official message about the ghastly danger the rockets present.

Such mixed messaging makes the dire estimates of the rocket threat seem less credible."

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/7/rockets-hamas-gazaisraeliprmessaging.html

 

My comment was made in jest but I guess you missed that. You mind if i shoot at you with a gun every day while you drive to work? There is an 86% chance that I will miss each time. Would you feel threatened or would it just be a mere nuisance. And of course they are civilians... the ones firing the rockets are young men wearing civilian clothing. The beauty of dressing your soldiers in civilian clothing is they can blend in nicely and when they are killed you can claim they were civilians and harvest public sympathy. Hamas does this part of the war very effectively.

As for Israels claims of it being no threat, what did you expect them to say? You want them to encourage Hamas by admitting is keeps their population in fear and disrupts their daily lives? Iraq claimed we were nothing until we rolled into Baghdad. This is the language countries under attack use. Lastly, when someone is firing at me with intent to kill I really couldnt give a (*)(*)(*)(*) how accurate they are. I am not going to sit idly by as I wait for them to get lucky and land a direct hit. Your assertion that war should be fair is ludicrous. Countries spend military money in 2 ways... to protect thier homeland and inflict as much damage as possible on the enemy. Israel, for whatever reason, has shown tremendous restraint while taking rocket fire on a daily basis. If they wanted to push Palestine into the ocean they could do it easily.

 

Give them 24 hours to get out and then Bulldoze Gaza into the sea.

 

So if one lives in a neighborhood where shootings between gangs happens then if you buy bullet proof glass for your vehicle you no longer have to be concerned and need not bother the authorities about arresting the pesky gang bangers.

I have a solution to the problem, don't build rockets and don't fire them and Israel will not feel they need to take out Hamas terrorists. It's logic in that decision by indecision will make the Palestinian's lives much easier. And, they only have to sit back and do nothing.

 

And Hamas promptly initiated suicide bombing and the Al-Aqsa intifada the very same day.

 

It's called terrorism. You certainly cannot be dismissing the constant rocket fire into Israel and the fact that Iran is sending better rockets?

 

The reason I quoted the excellent article was to highlight the contradictions with the official Israeli position which in effect undercuts their own propaganda. MOD Edit - Rule 3

 

Most reasonable, objective and non-partisan observers would regard a 14 per cent probability as being consistent with media depictions of a constant barrage of rockets raining down on Israel, as an exaggeration. But then Israeli apologists for the disproportionate illegal slaughter of Palestinian civilians including children playing football on a beach, in addition to the widespread destruction of civilian infrastructure, are not reasonable, objective and non-partisan anyway. Besides which there are so many contradictions and holes in the Israeli official account that they end up getting tripped up on their own lies anyway, which was the main point of the excellent article I cited.

 

So what is your position on Hamas ?

 

Oh boy. Let's reverse the situation and check some parallels, shall we? The Nazis regarded any partisan opposition to them as terrorism-especially from the Jewish resistance. Were the Jews terrorists for resisting being herded into a ghetto, having their food and water controlled, being imprisoned inside 30-foot walls, not being permitted to leave, having their means of making a living destroyed etc, etc?
That, my friend, is precisely what Israel is doing to the Palestinians, and they won't be satisfied until every last one of them is gone from the land of the 'Chosen People'.

 

Yep, read my sig line. Stewart hit the nail square on the head.