Terrorists fire rockets from Gaza hospital

Israel is an occupying power of the Occupied Palestinian Territories do you accept that?
Just so you understand exactly what territories I am referring to it is here.

 

Palestinians were sheltering from the attack in a school.

A Palestinian youth carries a child, wounded in an Israeli strike on a compound housing a U.N. school in Beit Hanoun, in the northern Gaza Strip, into the emergency room of the Kamal Adwan hospital in Beit Lahiya, Thursday, July 24, 2014. Israeli tank shells hit the compound, killing more than a dozen people and wounding dozens more who were seeking shelter from fierce clashes on the streets outside. Gaza health official Ashraf al-Kidra says the dead and injured in the school compound were among hundreds of people seeking shelter from heavy fighting in the area. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)

http://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2014/07/15_killed_while_un_tried_to_ev.html

 

the land is not stolen which reminds me of more violations of international law by Arabs, first they refuse to recognize the UN mandated partition, then they repeatedly attack Israel, a UN member in good standing, with the stated objective of wiping it off the map and murdering all jews, then they reject mandatory UNSC land for peace resolution requiring them to cease the hostilities and make peace with Israel.

 

Is Hamas trying to enforce their demands by hurling rockets into Israel, I think that is absolutely not a peaceful resolve.
Israel accepts UN-proposed 'pause' as Hamas rockets fall – the day's events
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/16/israel-warns-100000-gazans-to-flee-live-updates

There's no real peaceful dialogue if missiles,rockets and shells are ones who does the talking.

 

They had no authority to give inhabited lands to European refugees,

 

yes, the occupied territories include the West Bank but not Gaza. The amount of war crimes and violations of all kinds of international laws committed by Gaza is simply staggering...not just against Israel but against their own people....Do you accept that?

 

I am in complete agreement with you Margot, but all the Israeli apologists will say is that it is because Hamas does this or Muslims do that. They will not concede that Israel is an occupying power.

 

nice to see that you hold international law in total disregard and support ignoring/breaking it whenever you disagree with its rulings, no wonder the world is dealing with hundreds of daily violations and war crimes committed by the Palestinians and the entire Arab world.

 

Please provide independant evidence of gaza not being a part of The Occupied Palestinian Territories as stated http://www.ochaopt.org/

 

There has been no settlers or troops in Gaza for 8 years. Duh. That being said, this thread is about Hamas war crimes. I realize you are new to this forum but kindly stay on topic. If you disagree that Hamas commits war crimes please feel free to contribute. Your "don't look at Arabs, look elsewhere" tactics is not gonna work.

 

Borat, nobody ever said that Hamas doesn't commit war crimes. They do. I would, too, if I were in their position. You too.
What most people say, is that Israel commits even more, in spite of being in a position of strength. And they created Hamas, don't you forget that.
Israel is the grafted thumb that rejects the whole host body.

It still not getting through, huh? Ah well. Not much of a surprise. Feel free to ramble on about the qassams and "human shields", but if you are doing so, I will tag you as a one-overused-argument one-way collaborator, and consequently, ignore you (no put you on my "ignore" list, just not giving anymore attention to your endless mantra).

 

International law says that you can't move people in and settle occupied lands.

 

Really... Gaza is a refugee camp! Israel should be charged with war crimes. Those people are trapped and bombs are raining down on non military personnel and targets. Israel is the oppressors in this situation. When our news is controlled by Zionist Nazi's you are not going to here about the rapes and murders Israel has committed in Gaza. I'm getting tired of Americans backing Israel blindly. It makes me sick.


Hopefully Israel kills you too.

 

Legitimate resistance to occupation by a foreign power is not a war crime. Was the French Resistance guilty of war crimes when France was occupied by Nazi germany? That's obviously rhetorical, but you get the gist...
The rest of your hyperbole can be easily countered but, you know what, I really can't be bothered responding to a closed, partisan mind.

 

That's because, as this forum amply demonstrates, many Americans are utterly clueless about the situation in Gaza. I doubt many could even find the Middle East on a globe, let alone Israel.

 

So, Hamas stops resisting the occupation and the blockade, and allows Israel to continue with its land grab of Palestinian territory unmolested. Would that be acceptable to the Palestinians, do you think?
Even during periods of relative calm the settlement expansion into Palestinian territory continues unabated. Do you honestly think Israel will cease if Hamas quit their resistance?

 

The solution to the issue of the occupation was provided by binding UN land for peace resolution, "armed resistance" is violation of the resolution, armistice agreement, UNSC resolution and international law.

That being said resistances differ. Every rocket fired by Hamas in general direction of a population center is a war crime, so is terror, so are kidnappings, so is the usage of humam shields, deployment of rocket launchers in school yards, command centers in apartment buildings, ammunition caches in hospitals.

They are not freedom fighters, your Hamas buddies, they are fanatical medieval, ruthless scum and the amount on war crimes committed by them is staggering... The only consolation is thst they are stupid and not very good at what they do while Israel is at its best defending and protecting its population. This does not make Hamas good, makes it incompetent.

 

Excellent, so you'll agree that every bomb, every shell dropped by Israel into a population centre (all of Gaza, basically), is also a war crime. Thank you for your tacit concession.
I really wouldn't go down the human shield road if I were you. You know why, don't you? I would also advise you not to start pointing fingers about 'resolution breaking' for the same reason...

 

Please look at top of the page under Thread Title, it says Palestinian War Crimes In Gaza, not Hamas war crimes in Gaza, my contention is that before we can agree what war crimes have been committed by the Palestinians, we must first establish what legal status Palestine presently exists under. We have to all understand that Gaza is an occupied territory, you contend that Gaza is not but consistently fail to provide evidence.It is important that to decide or discuss what war crimes have or have not been committed by Palestinians.

What we desperately need is some accountability within the whole Israel/OPT area, such accountability will only be recognised when the leaders accept international law. I would say that there have almost certainly been war crimes committed by Hamas and by the IDF also there could be other groups involved who are not Palestinian. If accountability can be established and enforced against anybody guilty of war crimes then we will be moving towards a lasting peace.

 

There is a world of difference between Hamas targeting civilians in population centers and Israel targeting rocket launchers, deliberately placed by Hamas in population centers. The former is a war crime, the later is a legitimate military target. Unless you can prove Israel's deliberate attempts to hit civilians you have no case buddy, proving that about Hamas is a no brainer.

 

The death toll for Palestinians is now approaching 800 people and the conflict is spilling over into the occupied West Bank..

 

Uh huh. I could have predicted your answer almost verbatim. Unfortunately for you rising global condemnation of Israel's murderous incompetence tells a very different story.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/un-laun...-in-gaza-after-650-deaths-20140724-zw7my.html
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/against-establishing-inquiry.html
Your feeble attempt at finger-pointing is, however, noted.

 

Occupied or not, it doesn't absolve them of responsibility for war crimes they are committing. BINDING UNSC resolution 242 tells them that the solution to occupation is acceptance of Israel right to exist, negotiations and peace agreement. Shelling population centers with rockets deliberately is still terrorism and war crimes, even under occupation.

And as I said there's been no settlers or soldiers in Gaza for almost a decade, Israel has no political control there, Gaza had free election, it's self-governed, it does not meet any definition even the most loose ones of occupation.

 

Well this will teach Hamas not to play with fire and listen to the <coward> Mashaal... Israel has also lost soldiers in a war they did not initiate.

 

Good job Hamas. Its been quiet there for a few years till they kidnapped and murdered Israeli and American teens and started started firing rockets at Israeli towns.