Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually it began back in 2006 with the Secure Fence Act of 2006 that Chuck, Nancy and Hillary voted for.

    It was all Vietnam combat vet Rep. Duncan Hunter's idea.

    Replacing the 8 foot chain link fence with three strands of barb wire on top on the border in San Diego with a taller barrier using Vietnam War runway landing mats.

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    Bill Pape peers through a border fence made of Vietnam-era steel airstrip landing mat near his home in Jacumba Hot Springs, Calif.

    Holy craps, illegal crossings dropped by 95%.

    Over the years the San Diego border fence has evolved and steel slats seems to be the best choice.
     
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    Uh yeah, there’s no denying the obvious. That prototype can easily be sawed through. Further makes the case how the wall wouldn’t work.

    If Trumpets only had a brain.
     
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    Dems discovered steel can be cut! Wow
     
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    I can only assume the Democrats position is that "It is Trump".
     
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    Explain why the wall is working in San Diego and in the Yuma sector in Arizona ?

    Then there was CNN who stepped into liberal excrement again proving that walls work.

    White House thanks Jim Acosta for proving walls do work

    CNN's Jim Acosta was mocked across social media for posting a video that was meant to downplay President Trump's claims of a border crisis, but ended up supporting his argument that border barriers improve security. Acosta is in Texas awaiting Trump's border visit. While Acosta often clashes with the president and his aides, pundits suggested he did the president a favor this time.
     
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    A 3 foot thick reinforced concrete wall that can also be cut with a diamond circular saw that is 8 feet in diameter. Cuts like this are made all the time on various construction projects. Cartels have access to any equipment they need to cut any barrier and they sometimes will. There are also at least 60 tunnels that have been dug under the boarder. There are several choices possible for a wall. Steel may be easier to defeat in some respects than other materials but it is also easy to field repair.

    Drug trafficking is difficult to stop. Human trafficking is easier to control with a barrier wall. The actual purpose of this wall however is to control and reduce illegal immigration. Some will defeat a southern boarder wall by entering by other illegal means such as through Canada by water or by air but the vast majority of the problem exists on the southern boarder.

    At airports we restrict passengers and funnel them through a central point of departure. For international flights this has always been done by controlling entry through controlled customs and immigration rooms or areas. Since 9/11 and TSA points of entry are much more controlled than in the past. Still, very many Federal government TSA workers have been hired. Fences and walls have been used for centuries to route and control people and animals to where they are supposed to go, not just where they many want to go.

    Control of boarders with fences is no different than controlling cattle with fences, just more difficult. We create entry points and mend the fences. Nothing new.

    https://www.cbp.gov/border-security...round-history-and-purpose/history-and-purpose
     
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    Not really. Just fun to respond to the post.
    Trump might even win me over if he could actually come up with a plan, but he seems unable to do that. I don't know why, he has all those government guys working for him. Could it be that maybe he is not smarter than all of them?
    If he can't tell us what it is, where it goes or how much it costs, why should we fund it?
    Would you pay a contractor in advance to build a fence around your house not knowing the answer to any of those questions?
     
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    Cutting a hole in the fence would be a good thing. Then the border patrol would know where to be waiting for illegal crossings.
     
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    Some of the stoutest and slipperiest high-tensile metal alloys cannot stand up to a hacksaw -- if a man is patient enough and has sufficient endurance, or can tag off for a breather, and if there is plenty of water and carbs to fuel the effort.

    A man with a hacksaw could cut the forward landing gear off on a long commercial flight if he took a mind to. It would help keep him warm before the crash.
     
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    Let us know when those materials are used in the design
     
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    If anyone really wants to understand the boarder along it's length, a boarder fence vs open boarder an understanding of Central and South America, its leaders and America's role is a good start. It means understanding the history of the Narco economy and NAFTA and how it has become intertwined. Study Mexico and also Columbia, Venezuela and Honduras. It is a complicated socio economic situation that has connections and ties from Europe to Chicago and beyond. It is way more than just a political spat between Donald and Nancy.
     
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    Looks like it is Cor-Ten weathering steel. Should last a thousand years or more in the desert.

    Just saying that man is a natural born destructive animal capable of destroying most anything when he is determined, becoming a natural vandal and felon with a little encouragement.
     
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    Unfortunately not. The original product trade marked Corten by U.S. Steel was used for a number of architectural projects in the mid-70's and 80's but it soon became apparent that the product could be problematic. The surface oxidation is after all, rust. Under certain conditions, especially humidity, the original product never developed the protective skin it was supposed to. Consequently, the substrate surface will begin to pit. In some forms such as thin plate or sheet it won't take too long before it deteriorates to the point of failure. There have been some improvements made to the alloys used but it doesn't last forever. There are buildings that have been sealed and maintained and others that have not. Some that did not saw only 25-30 years before being demolished.
     

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