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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    might want to read it again
    thats the problem they pretend religion is an excuse, therefore act extrajurisdictional. The contract made with the gubmint was a set of 'reserved rights', they have no legitimate jurisdiction to even judge what is a religion on that point alone. Thats why old england had both until they wrote laws around religious representation. Worse there is not one secular gubmint judge in this country that has the theological training to adjudicate a case with regard to religion, but they do it anyway since the people are none the wiser, and of course they did not provide a remedy for it which was also in their charter duties.
    Not lock step, but politics outside of raw commerce is religion taken into the public arena.
    Like I said, your religion is grounded in what ever source moves you to volition. Which if you look at all 50 states they have omitted your right to exercise your religious beliefs, leaving you with nothing more than the right to pray (silently), and do nothing despite the fact that the gubmint iow the states assured us in a written guarantee in the 1st amendment. But then what contract has the US ever honored? Once they got what they wanted its **** you, da gubs way or da hiway! Its because they made laws directly tangent to our rights and they know it, sad part is we dont.

    They effectively wiped out religion, or struck religion from the constitution, because as you know and have stated several times no attached action = no religion. No one needs an amendment to pray silently.
     
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  2. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Well, you missed the point. The government can't make decisions concerning religion, but it certainly can make decisions concerning behavior of individuals living in our civilization - regardless of religious claims. "My god made me do it" isn't a legitimate argument in court.
    Oh, please. Let's keep this reasonably serious.

    The rule concerning school prayer has to do with government being used to promote a religion.

    Students can say pretty much whatever they want, including in speech to the student body.

    And, I have NO idea what you mean by religion being wiped out when you also say that everything people DO is religiously motivated!! Pick a side!
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    No I cut you off at the pass and you didnt realize it.
    But they 'DO', all the time!
    Ok I will repeat it since it didnt sink in the first time.
    They have no damn authority to adjudicate actions brought regarding religion 'actions', period. They need a theological court system set up for religious adjudication, that runs outside our secular commercially based court system. To provide due process in accordance with the constitution, they would need first to be ruled nonreligious by duly authorized theological judges, then enter into the secular courts. That would work for atheists as well btw.
    Of course not, that ridiculous, funny, I presume it was a joke, right?
    Yes please lets....
    Thats freedom of speech not exercising religion.
    you admit and have posted the requirements of a religion, only a mere few posts ago, do I really need to quote them? Its philosophy, opinion, ehtics, **** to talk about until its exercised, if its part of your religious beliefs then then its your religion, if it cant be exercised due to regulations then you are being prevented from exercising your strongly held beliefs which ie your religion.

    Now before you have a bird, the law, due process as intended was to be based upon injury or harm, no injury or harm to another no case, the problem however is when they write blanket statutes as they have that most certainly infringes upon the peoples 'reserved' rights, do you even know what reserved rights are?
     
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    So man did not create it? Good luck with that. This is likely a Chinese bio weapon gone bad
     
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    More democrat hate of Christians
     
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    What case are you worried about? Please be as specific as possible.

    There aren't two different ways to interpret our constitution - a secular way and a religious way.
    I don't have a religion.
    This isn't specific enough to comment on.

    Due process has to do with how one enforces the law. When a policeman kills someone who is shooting at them, that is due process. When a defendant is allowed full access to evidence and attorney, that can be due process.

    Clearly there are issues concerning how to apply the first amendment. But, your comments are too vague to be sure what it is about America that you object to.
     
  7. WillReadmore

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    The source of this virus is VERY well known.

    Let's not start spreading conspiracy theories.
     
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    The majority of Democrats are Christians. And, your idea of organized hate for Christianity is ludicrous.

    And, the name of the party is spelled "Democratic" - not democrat.

    The problems with hate that our police and justice system have come from white supremacists.
     
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    Yes it is the Chinese. Saying it is a bio weapon makes sense if you know how evil the Chinese are
     
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    They claim to be Christians but many belong to the catholic church cult. A Christian can't be a democrat and support gay marriage and abortion and men in women's bathrooms just to mention a few of the reasons

    The democrats hate law enforcement and love criminals
     
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    ok lets start here, tell me what you think a reserved right is
     
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    Wow!! What happened to YOU?
     
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    11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

    12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
     
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    LOL!!
     
  15. Kokomojojo

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    :applause:

    Yeh I know taboo subject because it proves certain things certain people dont want the general public to know or understand
     
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    You are running on empty.

    If you think there is an argument that relates to reserved rights, then try to make it.
     
  17. Kokomojojo

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    sure, easy peasy, the rights enumerated in the bor are 'reserved rights', outside the gubmints jurisdiction, with the exceptions aforementioned.

    Gas tank is full, and so is the spare tank. Doubt I will need it however.
     
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  18. WillReadmore

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    LOL -

    Look, you're just playing games.

    If you have anything to say about religion and government and the 10th amendment, say it.

    Specifically, you have clearly implied that there are government actions you don't agree with.

    If you still think that, they post it and be specific.
     
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    Congress shall make no law
    respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise [of religion] thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    My last posts are crystal clear, they are self explanatory and unequivocal, you either understand the material or you do not. Its starting to look like you do not.
     
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  20. WillReadmore

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    You STILL haven't specified a case where you believe our constitution has been abrogated.

    Beyond that, why did you get to this after spending time trying to propose that I have a religion???
     
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    reynolds v us
     
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  22. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    There are thousands of the God critters and each has its own unique name and attributes. Name your God.
     
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    Maybe the Chinese were framed?
     
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    Some domestic groups want to use the Chinese virus (trump term) as a bio weapon against cops and minorities by contaminating surfaces with the virus.
     
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    it isn't a belief, it's the lack of belief. Atheism, by definition, is not faith.
     
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