Texas border wall construction underway, Gov. Abbott says

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    That would be considered an act of war. That would also be something Moduro would do, or China, or even Russia, you know, the bad guys in your vernacular.

    There are two main cartels at our border, the Sinaloa, CDS cartel in Senora State of Mexico, across from New Mexico, Arizona, and California, and the Jalisco New Generation Cartel or CJNG, which is in Senora and Chihuahua State, which is across Texas, They generally fight each other out in those states unless they are messed with here. There is also the Juarez Cartel which is also in Chihuahua State. They mostly fight each other for control of their territory in Mexico but could turn their entire attention onto us. That is not something we want. The divide-and-conquer approach is much better. Use their greed against them, sow the seeds of distrust, and use psych warfare against each other. More denial plausible deniability than the use of a drone with markings that can lead to the State or the US military, and hence, an act of war. Or the other approach is the use of law enforcement like we did with El Chappo, among others but that takes time, evidence, and cooperation with Mexican law enforcement. But your approach will destroy all that and that will go beyond Mexico and even to our staunchest allies.

    https://www.globalguardian.com/news...ENT STATE,Juarez, Guanajuato, and Guadalajara.

    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/how-the-sinaloa-cartel-rules/

    https://insightcrime.org/mexico-organized-crime-news/jalisco-cartel/
     
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    While blue states run massive budget deficits, Texas has a $30 Billion surplus.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    From money fed to them by blue states. LOL
     
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    Except, if you read Trump's plan, it would have reduced legal immigration by 50% and made it more difficult legally, even for the simple immigration visas from people that are in Asia, Central America, and South America. So, yes, legal is not something that everyone wants, especially when it comes to legal for refugees and asylees.
     
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    Wouldn't happen if Biden secured the border which is his DUTY... ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION.
     
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    Totally untrue. Look at California sa an example. California has a high end limit of state income tax of about 14% That 14% is deductible from their federal income tax. That missing 14% raises federal income tax for the rest of us. Blue states keep raising taxes due to their own mismanagement. The resultant deduction from federal taxes hurts us all.
     
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    Texas and all other red states have nothing if it wasn't for the higher populated blue states feeding them money.

    You're welcome reds.
     
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    For starters, eminent domain is not going to give you FMV of your money if you sold the property outright. You will get at best 60% of that value if you are lucky. And you lose all rights to access of that property where the state is concerned. Second, Texas would be spending a lot of money to obtain the properties in the first place, along with the filing fees. And if someone has rights such as water and minerals, that value goes up even further. Then you have the Indian Reservation that borders Texas and Mexico. Enemient Doman does not work there. There is also a university on the border in Brownsville and a butterfly sanctuary where you need to deal with environmental laws already established, among other places. Then you have Big Bend National Park and that won't work either, would it? You are biting off more than you can chew here on this issue. I admire your salesmanship, but reality, pun intended here, is not going to be on your side, and given your political endeavors, the State ABA Association would call that a conflict of interest if you decide to represent property owners on this issue. And under Texas ABA, your loyalty to your client, if you have one, is at question here and that is not allowed per the State Bar rule 1.06.

    Let's see, Texas, and Abbott, has said no to refugees and asylees. Texas Senate Bill 147 is also trying to exclude citizens from people of Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China from purchasing any property whatsoever. And despite the sponsoring Senator's comments that "it does not target green holders," the bill does exactly that because he does not mention if they have legal status or not. And it may target US businesses that have dealings in those countries, namely China and Iran such as import/export businesses the way it is worded. And finally, based on the textual language of the bill, it violates the 14th and 24th amendments of those who are here legally and US Citizens, "all in the name of national security." Hogwash.

    Finally, so, if you are at fault, does that mean I can arrest your son or daughter for your criminal mistakes? That is essentially what you are arguing here and goes against every concept of the US Constitution and the State Constitution. I don't fault the kids, but the current law does not address their situation at all. Which is why DACA was created.
     
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    What blue states are those? According to this article, because of inflation, states are expected to have their state budget in to be the strongest financially in years, if not decades. The only exception is California which is expect to have a budget shortfall for the first time in a decade or so. But again, it has to do with a variety of factors, but inflation is helping those state budgets.

    Yes, Texas has a massive surplus, namely property values are up 25% on average, the maximum allowed per law. Second, inflation has caused more things to be expensive, which means more sales tax collected, hence why there is a surplus. That will not last when inflation get back under control by the FED.
     
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    Totally wrong. Blue states deduct their 14% state income tax from federal taxes and cause red states to pay more. Is this too complex for you?
     
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    Or you could have fallen for the scam of Trump's wall. :)
     
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    When TX has even more illegals crossing, I'll remind you.
     
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    What Trump did or did not do has NOTHING to do with Biden's total failure to secure our border.
     
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    Just hold the **** up a second. OVER 1 MILLION legal immigrants come into this country every year. Did you read Trump's plan? Well quote it then. Quote where it says Trump's gonna cut this by 50%.

    FURTHERMORE "legal is not something that everyone wants..." Refugees? Asylees? Those aren't immigrants. That's supposed to be temporary and *******mit, they don't have the "right" to immigrate in the first place. It's a PRIVILEGE. The door is not open to every shitbag in the world.
     
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    Why wouldn’t Mexico welcome the act? Wouldn’t we be doing them a favor? Ridding the world of scum? Oh that’s right. We’d be taking away their bonuses. :)

    Interesting though how you defend the worst scum on earth? Why is that?
     
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    It's not jump over.
    But walls can be gone over, under, around, and smuggled thru.

    167M for a bandaid. Seems like a waste of money.
    But as long as it's Tx money, no problem. I don't want the fed gov't wasting my money on a $167M bandaid.
     
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    The rawest military recruit understands that the establishment of obstacles is a key element in establishing a secure perimeter.
     
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    Do you know what a perimeter is?

    Do you think a wall in Tx is a perimeter around the USA?
     
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    But just think of how many high school football stadiums will have to wait to be built because money & the skill will be building this final hurtle to possible freedom!

    Bueno, amigo mío, hemos viajado 1500 km a través de desiertos ardientes, ríos inundados, soportado muchas dificultades, ¡pero nunca superaremos este muro de 12 m de altura! ¡Todo está perdido! ¡Volvamos a casa donde nos espera una muerte segura!
     
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    If I was Texas, I’d wall off Oklahoma, too, while I was at it!
     
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    I imagine you’re paying quite a bit for those brand new expensive nuke subs to protect yourselves from your neighbors to the west?
     
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    And even the dumbest know that obstacles are routinely overcome.
     
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    That is only if they are able to itemize and you have that $10k cap to deal with too per the JCTA.
     
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    I am not defending anyone here and you do not know Mexico or its pride. To put it quite simply, they will view this more as "Gringo" nonsense if you do something like this. The poor in Mexico do not care for the cartels and they do not trust the Mexican government at all. That has been the history of Mexico since the middle of the 19th century. These are the same people who think Pancho Villa is a hero to them, among other things. It's a law enforcement problem, on both sides of the border. And right now, the higher-ups do not trust each other and the rank and file just want to get the job done to take down the bad guys by legal means and methods.

    On the reverse end, it would be like the EU, the UK, Germany, Poland, etc, deciding on their own to take out the 3 percenters and another white nationalist/Neo-Nazi groups in the US because those groups are a security threat to their country. Do you think we will be welcoming that option? No, we would not, not as a country or as a matter of principle.
     
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    The one million are green cards that are approved each year. And percentage-wise, we are not even at the top of the list. Try UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait for starts as a percentage of immigrants to the total population. Currently, approximately 15% of our population is immigrants, those who are here, legally and illegally, and who have not yet obtained citizenship. Compare that to the UAE which is at 88% and they use a lot of domestic workers from the Philippines, Taiwan, China, and a few other places. Then they have workers in the oil fields who come from the US, France, Germany, Russia, etc.

    As for Trump's plan, it would cut legal immigration by half, according to immigration experts. His proposal would have made it difficult for those who are coming from Asia, South America, and Central America on the legal side. His proposal would have eliminated some categories from the diversity lottery of the Green Card to certain family categories to having English and discernable job skills for family-based immigrants of the categories that remained. In addition it would severely reduce humanitarian immigration, ie refugees and asylees, and eliminate work-related immigration with a point-based system that will focus more on age, younger people, education instead of job skills, and monetary value in their home country, ie upper middle class or higher, who are not the ones trying to find jobs here. A more detailed analysis is in the link below.

    https://immigrationforum.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/RAISE-Act-Bill-Analysis.pdf
     

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