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The Anti Gun movement kills its own arguments

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, Jan 1, 2018.

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Do you think a waiting period reduces gun shot illegal homicides

  1. None at all

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    63.6%

  2. almost none at best

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    22.7%

  3. a substantial reduction

    3 vote(s)
    13.6%

  4. Other-explain

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NRA used to support common sense gun regulations.

    not anymore.

    now they take foreign money to spend on American elections.

    treason, they iz
     
    Ronstar, Jan 20, 2018
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Klan supported AWB, UBC, permits for all handguns, magazine limits?

    i smell BS
     
    Ronstar, Jan 20, 2018
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    6Gunner Banned

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    Defamation spread by the antigun, antiConstitution movement.
     
    6Gunner, Jan 20, 2018
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Answer the question as it was presented to yourself. Did Donald Trump make the statement in support of execution before or after it was proven the individuals were wrongfully convicted?
     
    Xenamnes, Jan 20, 2018
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    There is nothing that amounts to so-called "common sense" to be found in what is being proposed.
     
    Xenamnes, Jan 20, 2018
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  6. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    how many cops have been killed by white supremacists vs blacks in the last 5 years? I bet more cops have been shot by whites than blacks but the rate of cops shot by blacks is higher. And I doubt you can prove that "white supremacists" make up the majority of whites who shoot cops
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Can you link that information?
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that changed when the Democrat party proved gun control was not designed to restrict criminals but to pretend the DNC was doing something about crime without wanting to upset criminals.
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Its a story that he made up=it has no basis in fact. Since the NRA supports gun ownership for all lawful Americans, that will upset white supremacists like the Klan-that want to disarm minorities Gun control has racist roots
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Eighty five percent of those who have responded note Waiting periods do little or nothing to prevent homicides.
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    I sadly remember women, killed by a man the Court had issued a restraining order for, she could not get a handgun in New York City, was not a Celebrity worthy of V.I.P. protection, not wealthy enough to hire a body guard, so no protection, and dead.

    This showed me what gun control really accomplishes, hinder law abiding people, and sometimes results in their deaths.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    the Klan pushed gun laws in the south to disarm blacks.

    I bet you are a big fan of that woman who was arrested in NY when she tried to declare a gun she legally owned in her home state
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    If I were Lord high dictator, the politicians responsible for her not being able to get a gun would be convicted as accessories before the fact and serving 10-20 in Attica for her death
     
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    the NRA supported background checks at gun shows.
     
    Ronstar, Jan 20, 2018
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    Got a link to that information?
     
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    Wayne LaPierre
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why should a gun show be any different than other places? the law is no different at a gun show than any other place in a state
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    uh that's a complete failure of proof. what was the law at the time? BTW lots of us think the NRA is too willing to compromise
     
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    because folks selling guns at gun shows are selling large quantities of guns as a regular business, which makes them fall under the FFL rules.
     
    Ronstar, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    then the ATF can prosecute them if they don't have FFLs or conduct background checks. but that is irrelevant to the point I made.
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Interesting. Last time he and I talked I don't remember him saying anything about it.
     
    Richard The Last, Jan 20, 2018
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    all gun sales to strangers should require a background check
     
    Ronstar, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    all sales of narcotics should require a prescription too but that doesnt happen.

    criminals will buy guns from people who know they are criminals.

    so your suggestion is worthless in preventing criminals from getting guns.
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    me neither and I have been a guest on NRA radio with him. I doubt that our resident gun restrictionists have had any contact with him
     
    Turtledude, Jan 20, 2018
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    So now you are saying if I know someone it is ok to sell them a gun? Would that still be the case if I knew they were a felon?
     
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