The bible never mentioned any east asian or blacks.

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  1. Ronstar

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    or brown.

    but definitely not ALL BLACK.
     
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    Another post of complete rubbish. What difference does the fact that Romans and Greeks ruled Egypt make to the colour of Egyptians skins. Were they required to dye them?

    Small brains? Just the opposite. We owe much of our knowledge to the Greeks and Egyptians. The Egyptians were advanced, for the age, in medicines and diseases. They could do minor surgery, diagnose diseases and prescribe Herbal medicines for many. The Edwin Smith Papyrus was written around 1600 BC (possibly a fragmentary copy of a text from 2500 BC) and contains a description of cancer, as well as a procedure to remove breast tumours by cauterization They knew how the body worked -, heart, blood flow and other organs.
    Hippocrates the Greek also described several forms of cancer. A Greek - Eratosthenes - actually measured the circumference of the earth to within about 1% A Greek also realised that the earth went round the sun - not as was generally though, the other way. The Greeks also had medical knowledge. The reason they went no further is the lack of facilities and knowledge that we have today. No modern hospitals, machinery, operating theatres, electricity etc.
    We owe the Romans the idea of Laws and their administration, central accountable administration of a country.
     
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    The greeks ruled AE for many centuries and practically enslaved the whole nation. take into account the roman rule and we are talking nearly 500 years, thats crazy crazy occuptation lol and bear in mind the romans crucified the lost children of israel too. this is monumental colonization making the scramble for africa and british colonialism look like tippy toes!

    small brains are small and they refuse to acknowledge the ancient greeks learnt EVERYTHING from kmt and so the world begins with greek because small brains need to feel big and so neglect kmt.

    we owe the romans the roads, no more no less, they were industrious and made their servants build lots of roads. that is the enduring legacy of rome, aside from the messiahs crucifixion, they built lots of roads, much like colonial europeans who built lots of roads in africa in order to export the minerals out of africa as fast as possible, creating cash crops that had little benefit to the indigenous pops.
     
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    I see nothing in the Bible to indicate Pharoah or Moses were white.

    https://www.quora.com/Was-Moses-black
     
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    If you call it all 'bogus' and don't believe the Bible, fine. But don't tell me it is not a reference to Jesus when it clearly is.
     
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    the name moses is typically related to black ppl and nobody else. i dont know how ppl think otherwise.

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    we dont even need to use the bible with these pagans, we can use the ancient reliefs from Iraq where the Israelites were depicted as ppl with wooly braided hair. no other ppl are known to wear braids, its an exclusively "black" cultural tradition.
     
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    all the historical evidence clearly suggests Moses was black
     
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    there is NO historical evidence to determine Moses' skin color.
     
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    many Jews are named "Moshe", which is the Hebrew version of Moses.
     
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    funny how history clearly shows Pharoah was black and Moses thought he was his grandson - that says it all
     
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    Yup. There are also no Australian Aborigines mentioned in the bible.
     
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    I'm also on Quora. These are simply personal opinions and often don't agree with each other. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate that Moses or Pharaoh were black. The most you can say is that the Nubian Pharaohs were dark skinned ,whereas the Egyptian, Hyksos and Libyan Pharaohs were lighter skinned. Skin colour variations depend on areas people come from.

    all the historical evidence clearly suggests Moses was black
    As Ronstar says there is NO Historical evidence for Abraham, Noah, Moses etc.let alone their colour.


    There is NO reference to Jesus in the OT. You really should forget Christian teaching for a while and study the OT as it was written. It all relates to the Hebrews. Jesus was a Jewish preacher - period. He had been brought up with the Tanakh from the age of 5 and, as with all Jewish children - especially boys - he had read and learned the Tanakh by the age of 12. At this age he became an adult under Jewish law. He used the OT teaching to try to return the Hebrews back to Jahweh. Matthews use of OT prophecies to make Jesus a divine child with a 'divine' birth don't stand up under scrutiny. Incidentally Paul says Jesus was divine because of his resurrection (Romans 1). The Book of Revelations was made up of OT scriptures and adapted to include Jesus. It really was relevant to the time and the Roman 'antiChrist'. The Roman Empire. It uses picture language loved by the Jews to tell stories.
    If you say it's a reference to Jesus then the description is the same and they must be one person - no trinity.
     
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    show us the historical evidence
     
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    Another load of tripe.

    The Egyptians welcomed the Greeks because they freed them from the hated Persians. Alexander was very careful not to upset the Egyptians and allowed their religion and customs to continue. In fact he was so liked they named his as 'Pharaoh'.

    The Romans likewise. They were tolerant of many things - including religion. The Romans didn't build roads for trade. They built them for rapid movement of troops to trouble spots. 'The road was the main factor that allowed them to concentrate their forces with sufficient rapidity and to keep them adequately supplied, wherein they became a formidable opponent.' Appian Way - down the west coast of Italy was extended across to the east coast for this purpose. However, having been completed it was decided the route was too slow so they built another, easier route from Beneventum to Brindisi, slightly to the north The reason for the Appian way down the coast was the 3 wars with Samnites.

    Try reading Mary Beard . 'Why Ancient Rome matters to the modern world'. You'll see many similarities with today.
     
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    The supposed Moses did not think he was Pharaohs grandson if you read the Bible. It says he saw one of his own - Hebrew - being beaten, so killed the Egyptian beating him.
     
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    nice, very mature.

    so the AE's loved the greeks huh, are we supposed to believe that because...... "trevor2539" says so? should we ask "trevor2539" what his source is or will we likely get more lies? the type of lies like "they made alexander a pharaoh" smh.
     
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    the jews were still black though according to the the greatest empire on earth at the time.
     
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    You really should read your history books.

    2 quotes for you. No. 1 comes from my study notes. No 2 from quoted. If you want more they are available.

    1. Alexander the Great conquered Egypt at an early stage of his conquests. He respected the pharaonic religions and customs and he was proclaimed Pharaoh of Egypt,

    2 'Yet for almost 200 years Egypt had been occupied by Persia who had incorporated it into the growing empire, and assuming the Egyptian crown by right of conquest the Persian king had ruled in absentia through a satrap, exploiting its vast grain reserves and taxing its people. The Persians showed relatively little respect for the ancient traditions and were deeply unpopular, and the Egyptians' had rebelled so often parts of the country remained virtually independent..

    Alexander was therefore hailed as Savior and Liberator, and as the people's choice and legitimate heir he was offered the double crown of the Two Lands. Anointed as pharaoh in Memphis on 14 November 332 bc, the culmination of his coronation was the climactic moment when the high priest named him 'son of the gods' according to traditions dating back almost 3,000 years
    http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/alexanderthegreat.htm
     
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    The Jews were never black. They had a light tanned skin. Compared with the Nubians they were almost white.

    Where does 'the greatest empire on earth at the time' say the Jews were black?
     
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    so you give me a wiki as source for who alex was and what a pharaoh is, as your proof that AE's loved and welcomed the greeks?

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? IKNOW WHO ALEX IS AND WHAT A PHARAOH IS LMAO.

    stop wasting my time please. i asked for a reputable source not a tourist website!

    as things stand, the greeks were hated by the AE's and interestingly too, the Israelites had this same hatred of greeks. This is why jews celebrate Hanukkah (pagans christmas) and why the Maccabees are revered throughout Hebrew customs much like the AE rebels who fought the same wars against the greek invasions.
     
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    on their temples, you know, those same temples that your american troops tried to loot and bomb. unfortunately for you the temple engravings have all been archived in the cloud.

    isnt the internet a god send!
     
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    touregypt

    lmao, he uses touregypt as a source that the AE's loved the greeks and vica versa.

    OF COURSE THE TOURIST BOARD WOULD SAY THAT, OTHERWISE THEYD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.
     
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    ill, wait. in the mean time just ponder the thought that i have an ancient greek source that discusses the wars between the native egyptians and the colonial greeks IN EGYPT.

    yep, ancient self snitching. credit his honesty though, the greeks werent as devious as the romans who went all in with the whitewashing of ancient history.
     
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