The Bible

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your FAIL! Of course you tried to define "Christian" by using the term as being "persecuted" by right wingers. Here are your words....as lame as they may be.
    "Horseshít, buddy. It is right wingers with their anger, prejudices, warmongering, and injustices to the poor that persecute Christians and distort the Bible's true meaning."
    You pretend to know the Bible yet you fail to understand its core precepts. Get another vocation. Get some wisdom somehow.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No....you abort most of your children.
     
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    The Bible does not say one word about babies going to the golden cube. It does not even say that women make it. In some cases babies and women go to paradise in Islam but there is no mention of them doing it in the Bible.
     
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    Why would we do a horrible thing like that.
     
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    LOL. Bible's meaning, not definition of Christian. Thank you for making my point.
    In that regard, you are a SUCCESS.
    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
     
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    It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand.

    Mark Twain
     
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    I think the point was there are children born that are suffering in the world and their life is no gift from a God

    the children of Jews during Hitlers rein as an example, or children in power countries dying of starvation and disease
     
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    do you think Trump is a good Christian? is he the moral leader the right chooses to lead them?
     
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    I doubt a lot of the politicians are really Christians.
    They need to proclaim that to get elected.
     
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    this is true, in fact God doesn't even count them until after they been born over a month I think (Numbers 3:15-16)

    it's a tough question for Christians, "what do you think God does to innocent babies that die, let them into heaven or send them to hell for eternity", most want to believe their God is a good God
     
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    so with your definition of "Christian", Trump is not a Christian?
     
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    I don't think I am qualified to make that call.
    However I claim many politicians are probably atheist or agnostic, and claim Christianity.
     
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    so you criticize another poster for their definition of Christianity, but your not qualified to make that call?

    I agree that many on the religious right only use religion as a tool to win elections\control people and could really care less about the belief other then that
     
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    Don't know what you're spinning there,
    must have missed something.
     
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    you said -- "your definition of "Christian" is a failure. You may know the words of the Bible but your heart is far from it."

    so do you think Trump's words and actions are far from being Christian?

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    That is a barefaced lie,
    I did not say that.

    Are you a Christian, why are you lying.


    Bearing false witness is one of the commandments.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because you believe they are just accidents of nature.....no "magic fairy" created them with a plan for their future.
     
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    Now you are telling me what I believe,,,,, that's odd.
     
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    I have nothing particularly to be grateful for. I am what I am. Should I be grateful that I do not have Down syndrome? Perhaps. But then, should I be ungrateful that I have other problems - age related. Should I be grateful that I can manage to live on my Government pension or should I be ungratefull that I have never been able to earn enough to be rich. It's all swings and roundabouts. It's a case of being satisfied with what you are and what you have. Someone with Downs - depending on the severity - may understand what is happening, others not. At the most they have a very limited reasoned outlook on life. .
    By the way, I have a relation who has Down Syndrome so I know something of what you are talking about, and I used to attend a Baptist church where we also had a group of young people with learning difficulties.
     
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    Trump is not my Pastor.....or even my Christian mentor. But I love the results of his leadership! Great economy so the poor has a chance, and securing our border from those that would rob from their benefits! Safety from MS=13 and illegal criminals that infiltrate their neighborhoods! Democrats just want to keep them enslaved forever for government handouts while they siphon off the top......very un Christlike.
     
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    Contentment is the spice of life. I think you are missing out. But you let on to something that reveals an awful lot.....your government pension. Those that tend to rely on government security tend to never be grateful for nothing other than the government from who's teat they love to suck. That is why Socialism, Communism and Social Democracy are so dangerous to citizens contentment. I have no pension personally other that what I have been able to save and invest through frugal living and hard work. I am very content with how I have been able to not only provide for myself but for many others as well. Had I been able to invest what the government has robbed from me in the way of Social Security.....I would have done MUCH better. Still I am not only content, I am grateful for how God has provided for me and my family!
    You should have been ungrateful for never having been rich you ask?? Well, since you are prone to government provision, perhaps you should have been a politician. Barrack Hussein Obama was a political organizer. Never did a thing in his life that produced anything that people could eat or use to better their lives. He is exceedingly wealthy in the monetary form. Being a leech can make you wealthy in our secular government. That is the dream for those at the top of a Socialistic government.
     
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    Pidyon Haben - redemption of the firstborn is on the 30th day. Before the baby (firstborn boy) is redeemed with 5 pieces of silver, it belongs to god. The silver is handed to a 'Kohen' (descendant of Aaron) in a ceremony. After redemption it is a 'free' man.
     
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    Funny how "Money" is always involved.
     
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    Of course you blame God for your choices.
    Barrack did.
     
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    I'll say this, what he has accomplished in two years has done far more than what the previous self proclaimed Chistian did in eight for individual liberty.

    Of course there are many that have a closer walk to Jesus than others. There are different levels of walking with God. If you studied the Bible, you would even realize God used Pagan rulers to benefit the nation of Israel. I would not attend a Bible Study led by President Trump....yet I wouldn't want Jimmy Carter to lead my Country again. No matter how flawed Donald Trump may be in his moral life.....he can redeem himself. In the meantime, he is a great leader.
     
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