The chilling resemblance between ISIS indoctrination and Eddie Eagle

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  1. Rucker61

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    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

    Bloomberg is 15 on the top 50 organizational donors. NRA doesn't even make that list.
     
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    Because of people like me, there are fewer households with firearms than ever before.

    It seems children are less likely to kill each other in households that don't have firearms.

    I am sure you are struggling to understand why.
     
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    T'aint.
     
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    Only if the state can prove the state took place after the UBC requirement went into effect.
     
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    I see - you reject reality and replace it with your own. Well done.
     
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    An often made, but unsupportable, claim.
     
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    Are members of congress not voted into office by citizens that know their positions on issues? Also, the vast majority of states do not have gun registration.
     
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    Indeed -- gun registration is a rarity.
     
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    There is no way to track gun ownership so your claim about fewer households having guns is unfounded. All relevant indicators point to just the opposite. But as I said, our government states that they have no way to track ownership but they say the best indicator of new sales is background checks.

    I'm a firearms instructor and a ranked, sponsored competitive shooter that often travels the country to do so. I'm not confuse about anything. You are correct, kids and adults are less likely to kill themselves with a gun if there is no gun in the home.
    They are also less likely to drown in a pool if they don't own one.
    You are less likely to die in a car accident if you live in a small African village with no cars.
    You are less likely to die from a medical negligence if you don't go to hospitals.
    Duh.
     
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    You're delusional, to say nothing of intellectually dishonest. The record of gun controller falsehoods is documented and reprehensible.

    You're full of bovine excrement. But, leftists and gun control advocates are notoriously adverse to acknowledging reality.
     
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    Pray tell how so? The vast majority of firearms in the united states are not registered to anyone, meaning they can be in the possession of nearly anyone. The only way for a police officer to know if the possession is illegal, is if the person has a disqualifying criminal record, or the serial number was reported as stolen.

    Without firearms being registered, there is no way of telling if an illegal sale was performed or not. And since private sales can occur in any venue anywhere, there is nothing that can be done to stop one from being committed.

    Such as the state of Nevada, which cannot charge anyone for privately selling a firearm without performing a background check, because the FBI has refused to expend finite resources for the program that was enacted without them first being consulted on the matter?
     
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    Have you noticed in those states that allow citizens to propose and then vote on their own laws that background checks have passed eight times in a row?

    When all your members of Congress vote the same way on the same bill, you don't really have another choice.

    Universal background check laws will pass just as the equal rights bill passed, a painfully slow process that will cost thousands of lives because of the NRA blocking the federal approach.

    Tick tock.
     
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    If you are merely going to complain about the current programs being ineffective, present a more viable alternative.

    Which is not a viable option, and thus is fit to discard outright.

    A vague, poorly defined standard that is open to wide ranging interpretation from one individual to another. While some feel only a steel locking box will amount to the safe storage of firearms, others feel merely keeping a firearm on a top shelf in their closet is safe storage. Come up with an easily referenced, easy to cite standard, that does not violate the Heller ruling by making firearms inaccessible for immediate self defense.

    Legally, a child is anyone who is under the age of eighteen. Storage methods that might prevent access by a five year old, will not be sufficient for stopping a seventeen year old who knows where the keys to safe are stored.
     
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    And those tasked with enforcing such laws have stated in absolute terms that they cannot be enforced. Who should be more readily believed, the public that is ignorant of how the legal process works, or those who are experts in the limitations of various laws?
     
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    Why do you think this is meaningful?
    Just like Hillary will beat Trump in a landslide.
     
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    No.

    Eddie Eagle is not a safety program, it is a PR program.

    It has no place in public schools.
     
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    Perhaps because I am smarter than you.

    Universal background checks are required in 8 states and there are some extended form of background checks in 18.

    90 percent of Americans support universal background checks.

    9 percent of Americans are felons.

    What does that leave?
     
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    In other words, you have no supportable, substantive or meaningful reasoning behind the importance you assign to that fact.
    Just as I thought.
     
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    Why do you want children to remain ignorant of something that might save their lives or the lives of others?
     
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    Try to teach kids sex education and see the screams you get
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
     
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    ***********

    How did you manage that one ?

    "fewer households with firearms"
     
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    Fewer households with firearms.

    Too many words for you?
     
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    I know but you have a right to your opinion.
     
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    Why do you beat your wife?
     

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