The coup investigation is about to enter a new phase.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only stink from the last election is the one Trump put on it by telling the colossal lie he won.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

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    Rudy Giuliani cancels scheduled appearance before Jan. 6 panel

    WASHINGTON — Rudy Giuliani will no longer meet Friday with the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, his lawyer confirmed.

    The last-minute change, attorney Robert Costello said, came after the House committee denied a request to record the scheduled interview. Costello said he made the request in advance so there would be no allegation of covertly recording Giuliani's testimony.

    Costello said it's now up to the committee how to proceed.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ls-scheduled-appearance-jan-6-panel-rcna26384

    Translation; Slimy Rudy came up with a request he knew would not be granted as a pretense to not show up for questions he didn't want to answer.
     
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    Sounds like Slimy Rudy asked for a recorded record and the upstanding American committee doesn't want any of those? That sneaky devil.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

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    New audio tapes have leaked of Sen. Lindsey Graham saying that Trump 'went too far' and 'plays the TV game,' while calling Biden the 'best person to have' post-January 6

    New audio tapes have surfaced of Sen. Lindsey Graham, a known Trump ally, criticizing Trump and praising Biden after the January 6 Capitol riot.

    The tapes were played on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" during an interview segment with New York Times reporters Alex Burns and Jonathan Martin. Martin interviewed Graham on January 6 directly after the riot, and the senator spoke candidly about then-President-elect Joe Biden and the former president, Trump.

    In the first audio clip, Graham said he thought everyone would "come out of this stronger."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/new-audio-tapes-leaked-of-lindsey-graham-criticizing-trump-2022-5

    Come out stronger? Trump still rules the POT, 30% of Repubs don't think Biden is the legit prez, and the perception of election integrity has been lowered.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'Provide some cover': New Eastman emails shed light on his push to overturn Biden's win

    Attorney John Eastman urged Republican legislators in Pennsylvania to retabulate the state’s popular vote — and throw out tens of thousands of absentee ballots — in order to show Donald Trump with a lead, according to newly unearthed emails sent in December 2020, as Trump pressured GOP lawmakers to subvert his defeat.

    This recalculation, he posited in an exchange with one GOP state lawmaker, “would help provide some cover” for Republicans to replace Joe Biden’s electors from the state with a slate of pro-Trump electors, part of a last-ditch bid to overturn the election results.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/10/eastman-emails-pennsylvania-legislators-biden-00031668

    Eastman's role in the coup plot can not be over stated.
     
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    Jan. 6 committee subpoenas Kevin McCarthy, other Trump House allies

    The committee investigating the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol took the unprecedented step Thursday of issuing subpoenas to five Republican congressmen, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California.

    The Democratic-controlled committed previously asked the congressmen, who also include Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio, Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Mo Brooks of Alabama and Andy Biggs of Arizona, to sit for voluntary interviews, but all had refused.

    With the exception of ethics committee investigations, the subpoenas are believed to be the first congressional subpoenas to sitting members and will almost certainly be challenged in court.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...house-members-minority-leader-kevin-rcna28569

    I'd love to see them ask him about his recorded comments on Trump. When Kevin basically said Don should resign.
     
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    Mass inflation
    Baby formula shortages
    Potential covid spikes
    Illegal immigration nightmare
    Supply Chain Issues
    Ukraine

    Trump (if he chooses) will be president again in 2025. This committee will ultimately accomplish nothing other than to give the Trump haters (and I am one) more proof of what we already know. If the dems really wanted to keep him out of power, not doing a crap job and better dealing with issues like the ones I listed would have been the better strategy
     
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    You left out the heartbreak of psoriasis, traffic on the highway, and the D your kid got in math.

    "Trump (if he chooses) will be president again in 2025." If that happens, after him attempting a coup, it will mark the end of this experiment in democracy.
     
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    The US Government and the 2 party system is a failure. We are effed no matter who wins in 2024.
     
  10. Lee Atwater

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    I must say, that's an iteration of the ubiquitous "they're all bad" false equivalence I haven't heard before. No Dem or Repub ever tried a coup before Trump. He is uniquely dangerous to the country.
     
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    Can't speak to the heartbreak thing but Biden is responsible for that other list. He's shifting blame like a Russian propaganda bot now.
     
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    Just as I understand you believe that I understand your position is largely unsupported by the facts.
     
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    Can't help wondering if those who have recently been subpoenaed are concerned about their own exposure to criminal liability.
     
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    ""I'd love to see them ask him about his recorded comments on Trump. When Kevin basically said Don should resign.""
    Do you have the actual recording of McCarthy telling Trump to his face to resign?
     
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    The Time to Prevent the Next Coup Attempt Is Now

    Our voting systems in America have not always been perfect—the most glaring flaw being the disenfranchisement of many African Americans until the mid-20th century—but we corrected that and over time and in most places, we’ve conducted free and fair elections every two years. We’ve voted during wars and depressions and even in the midst of a civil war. With rare exceptions, we’ve accepted the outcomes as fair. Losers have conceded and phoned the winners to wish them well. Addressing their own crowds, defeated candidates hushed those of their supporters who booed the winner’s name and affirmed their obedience to the voters’ will. Most of us enjoyed the luxury of not even sparing a thought for who was counting the votes. We trusted that the system was reliable. Heck, we went abroad to teach others how to conduct free and fair elections.

    Building a voting system that relies on community volunteers, nonpartisan administrators, and ingrained trust is an accomplishment. But what takes generations to build can be destroyed in short order. And what we’ve witnessed since the closing months of 2020, when Donald Trump first began to cast doubt on mail-in ballots, is the deliberate sabotage of trust in our elections. The spasm of violence on January 6th was the most visible evidence of the damage, but the undermining has accelerated.

    https://www.thebulwark.com/the-time-to-prevent-the-next-coup-attempt-is-now/

    I don't know how prevention is possible with the POT blocking those efforts.
     
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    It is happening now….. Durham is trying Sussman who was involved it the documented and provable attempted coup of an American citizen and then duly elected president by the Obama/Biden administration and Hillary Clinton… Prove me wrong… I have enough to fill pages of proof and evidence…
     
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    DOJ asks Jan. 6 committee for its transcripts

    The Department of Justice (DOJ) has asked the Jan. 6 House committee to turn over some transcripts of depositions it has conducted as part of its investigation into the attack on the Capitol, even as the chair warned they would not receive “unilateral access.”

    According to the Times, Kenneth Polite Jr., the assistant attorney general for the criminal division, and Matthew Graves, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, wrote to the panel’s investigative lead on April 20, saying the committee has conducted interviews that “may contain information relevant to a criminal investigation we are conducting.”

    Chair Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) confirmed the request to reporters Tuesday, but said he was not sure what information DOJ wanted and said the committee would be willing to provide unfiltered access as it gears up for hearings next month as well as a report expected in the fall.

    https://thehill.com/policy/national...s-jan-6-committee-for-its-transcripts-report/

    A criminal investigation? I'm intrigued.
     
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    Jan. 6 Panel Seeks Information From GOP Rep Who It Says Gave Tour Day Before Insurrection

    The Jan. 6 Select Committee on Thursday announced that it is seeking information from Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA), who, it says, gave a tour to a group, leading visitors “through parts of the Capitol complex” the day before the deadly Capitol insurrection last year.

    In its letter to Loudermilk, committee chair Bennie Thompson (D-MS) and vice chair Liz Cheney (R-WY) cite “public reporting and witness accounts” that “indicate some individuals and groups engaged in efforts to gather information about the layout of the U.S. Capitol, as well as the House and Senate office buildings, in advance of January 6, 2021.”

    “For example, in the week following January 6th, Members urged law enforcement leaders to investigate sightings of ‘outside groups in the complex’ on January 5th that ‘appeared to be associated with the rally at the White House the following day,'” Thompson and Cheney wrote.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/january-6-committee-loudermilk-capitol-tour

    Leads keep emerging as to potential evidence some Repubs may have facilitated the 1/6 attack.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If this proves to have happened I can already sense the collective "so what" coming from The Following.
     
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    *Looks at his 401K and vanguard accounts
    * Looks at the price of gas, milk, eggs, etc
    *Looks at the nonstop issues in the news

    I hate Trump and even I don't care about this waste of time politically motivated committee when there are a lot bigger issues to deal with

    I guarantee you that there are millions more who share my thoughts
     
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    I think the investigation in to the former prez attempting a coup, and the possibility a POT Rep aided the 1/6 mob, is a big deal no matter what else is going on. JMO.
     
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    and what is the end game?

    Trump will not be banned from running in 2024 and if he runs, he wins

    So other than having talking points, what exactly is gained?
     
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    I don't think you should totally discount the possibility he will be convicted of a felony. There are multiple cases pending. Especially since if a case does go to trial the jury won't be in the bag as it was for the two impeachments.
     
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    Been hearing that since 1/20/21 - not happening
     
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