The Cruelty of the $15 Minimum Wage

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  1. DaveBN

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    First off, you must not have watched the video in the OP. Recommend checking that and reconsidering my post.
    Second, who is getting $16+ to wash dishes? Care to link a job posting?
     
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    Full Time Dishwasher
    WILLOWCREEK GRILL
    location
    Boise, ID 83705
    $15 an hour

    Easily apply to this job without a resume

    Urgently hiring
    A “Fair Chance” job (you or the employer follow Fair Chance hiring practices when performing background checks - learn more at https://start.indeed.com/fair…
    5 days ago
     
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    You provided a dead link. You also failed to address the first point. Why do you think allowing people to drive down their pay below minimum wage is a good idea?
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    Wait you would rather have a person with no job on welfare, then work for whatever they want?
     
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    Nope.
    Why do you believe it’s a good idea to allow people to work for less than it takes to live on? Are you concerned with the possibility of that driving down wages?
    Your link is still broken.
     
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    You do know the original intent of the minimum wage was racist right?
     
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    Please explain.
    How is it still racist today?
    Your link is still broken.
     
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    Dont know how to look up job boards?

    Illegals have to work under the table.
     
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    Are you aware that you’ve failed to answer almost every one of my questions? Is that on purpose?
    How was the creation of the minimum wage racist? How is it still racist today.
    It seems like you’re just regurgitating talking points without understanding them.
    I’m not obligated to look up job boards. You claim the jobs are there and the wages are high for those positions. Back that up, please.
    What does illegals working under the table have to do with anything at all?
    Your link is still broken.
     
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    You are aware I am waiting for the political debate kill right?


    Not yet though ..


    Tell us what is different about $12 dollar burger plate from Colorado with a minimum wage of $11.00 an hour


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    And this burger plate from Wyoming that cost only $8 bucks with a minimum wage of $7.25



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    Can you spot the difference?
     

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    Wait so one can post propaganda with out looking up facts?
     
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    I don’t know what you mean by that.

    Not yet what?

    Without more detailed information than the state, or information specific to the business, I would guess the difference is cost of living for the area, cost of rent on the property, and a whole host of socioeconomic factors. Where did you get those prices?

    You’ve still yet to back up any of your claims. You’re just regurgitating talking points without understanding them; let alone how to argue in their favor.

    Your link is still broken.
     
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    What propaganda am I posting and not backing up? You’re the one that made the claim that there are low skill jobs paying double the minimum wage and provided a broken link to back it up. I am not obligated to do research on your behalf.
     
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    I will go slow.


    The federal government artificially raising the minimum wage doesn't equal more wealth

    You still are at the bottom broke , poor.

    The federal government could raise the minimum wage to $500 bucks an hour and you would be broke and poor

    Supply and demand
     
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    You post jealousy, every one knows when a person from Alabama making twice the states minimum wage gets ahead, and people making a states minimum wage doesn't.


    Its simple economic 101 good gawd.
     
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    You have yet to post a link from job boards
     
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    Minimum wage should be set at zero, it's up to you to make a difference
     
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    You’re right to an extent. However, consumers with more buying power equal more revenue for businesses. For instance, Starbucks would see more business if the employees of Starbucks, and those at similar income ranges, were able to afford Starbucks. Many more businesses would see improved revenue from increased consumer buying power. There are of course breakpoints, as you illustrated, but $15 an hour is not that break point.
     
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    This post makes zero sense. Is it meant to make a claim about what you believe I make? If so that’s a fools game.
    You’ve said next to nothing with this post. Possibly less as it hurts your argument.
     
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    Why would I be obligated to post any job board listings. You’ve made specific claims about wages. It’s on you to back them up. Your failure to do so speaks volumes. All I have to do is link to federal minimum wage. Found here:
    https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2018/pdf/home.pdf
    W
    hat have you got?
     
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    Why are you eager to see the wages of workers driven down further than they already are? Wereyou not just lamenting illegals driving down wages?
     
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    Uhm what the heck?


    Its supply and demand not that complicated
     
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    We have a 3.5 % Unemployment rate
     
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    How are you measuring 'productivity'? And who gets to measure it?
     
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    What do you mean by 'allow'? Some people want jobs that pay minimum wage (or even less). I know unskilled migrants who thrived on those jobs when they were new to the country.
     

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