The Delusion of Atheism

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Open your mind up, there can be infinite possibilities for anything that could be eternal.
    That you're frustrated and angered by the human condition is personal. Yes, there are some areas of humanity in bad/sad places. But most are not. Get the most that are not to care a little more about those that are. Maybe that will ease you frustration and anger.
    Instead of hoping there may be some eternal after life that will take away all your anger and frustration.

    Humanity has improved its condition leaps and bound in a short period of time recently.
    If we can get religions and conservatives who hate change out of the way. Humanities improvements could be limitless.
     
  2. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Hear hear. Religion needs to brainwash folks into thinking there is some afterlife where all will be glorious. Just so they have some control.
    That causes most of them to feel so inadequate in the right here and now. They don't want to live this life and make the best of it for them, family, friends, neighbors, community, state, country. Instead they whine how bad it is and hope there is some paradise and miss out on the only life they may have.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have the difficulties and hardships in life helped you to become more?
    Do you believe you would be who you are and think the way you do without them?

    Does this understanding also make you a bit better as a Human Being?

    Welcome to life...It's pretty cool usually.
     
  4. Goomba

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    Balderdash. The life of an atheist is ultimately meaningless.

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    Standard atheist reasoning:

    Religious people are brainwashed; all they care about is heaven. Derp.

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    "Infinite possibilities."

    You can't even name 2.
     
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    The life of an atheist is all the richer for knowing that this is the only life you get, so don't waste a minute, expecting a reward in a non-existent afterlife.
     
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    An atheist suicide bomber REALLY means it!
     
  7. godisnotreal

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    I can tell you from personal experience, that it is not. My life is FULL of meaning. And I am a full on atheist.
     
  8. atheiststories

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    Like what?
     
  9. Goomba

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    Describe this meaning. Is there anything out there that is concerned with the human species? If not, then humans are just another bundle of cells.

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    How is it wasting anything?
     
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    heaven, hell, Islamic 'heaven', part of the universal spirit, spirit world (not religious), parallel universe.
     
  11. dairyair

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    Read your 3 responses.
    Atheist life is meaningless?
    What is the purpose of your life? The end goal?

    possibilities: Universe is eternal. There is more than 1 universe.
    Your turn. Use your mind.
     
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    How did you arrive at that conclusion?
     
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    Expect a rationalization in 4....3......2.....1.....
     
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    I mean the question needs to be asked - why do you need religion and or God in your life to make it meaningful?
     
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    I don't.

    I do not deny it would be nice if a loving and caring GOD existed and it would be nice if there was an afterlife.

    But nothing I have seen or experienced leads me to believe that.

    It's best for people to do the very best with the time they have as if people thought this was it....they might actually treat each other better.

    AA
     
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    I experience tremendous meaning and purpose, every time I kiss my wife, every time I help another person, every time I pure a golf ball, every time I witness nature's beauty, every time I bite into a perfectly cooked filet, every time I fly though virgin powder on the slopes, every time I see my daughter smile and laugh and play, every time I hear my favorite song, every time I savor a well-prepared piece of sushi, every time I laugh with my friends, every time I hear the sound of nothing but net from downtown,every time I feel a fish on, every time I'm killing it at work, every time I experience the open ocean, every time I sit down with a beer watching my favorite TV show, every time I serve an ace, every time I share a moment with my family.

    Meaning and purpose are EVERYWHERE in my life. I'm sorry if you don't find the same in yours.
     
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    There's this guy in the next cubicle who says "Allah" can kick "God's ass and this other guy says "Shiva" will "destroy" both of them.

    So, since no one can prove that their "god" is "God" wouldn't the "safe" thing be to worship all of them? Or maybe the smart thing to worship none of them. After all, a 10% take is pretty steep given what they deliver.
     
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    The biggest issue with "god" is that he isn't real. And thus, any "meaning" that you derive from god isn't real either. It's fake. Some people, for one reason or another, can't find real meaning in their lives, and so they turn to god in order to substitute fake meaning for actual, real meaning. Which is fine. If you can't find real meaning in your life, then it's perfectly fine to turn to fake sources of meaning, when that's all you have.

    But for us atheists, who are able to find perfectly good sources of meaning in our lives, the concept of relying on the fake meaning derived from an imaginary "god" seems somewhat perverse.
     
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    With out god, whose slave would I be?
     
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    Whether you believe in god or not, we are all slaves to the same master - the laws of reality and physics.
     
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    Water is wet.
     
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    I don't need either to make my life meaningful.
     
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    Your wife's? Your government's? Your own body's? Try telling your body you're not going to eat or drink. :wink:
     
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    Oh no, I guess my purpose is to eat, drink, have sex and pay taxes then.
     
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    Well said!!
     

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