The dumbing of America

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  1. Brexx

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    Yes it has. The people who claim, and teach, that gender has nothing to do with biology are not right wingers. That is just one example.
     
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    The OP claims that Republicans have mended their ways and "Post War" have lost their racism...and then goes on to spout.....racist bullshit.I guess because it isn't "explicit" (no using the N word in public) it's not really racist. It is

    Amazing
     
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    What do you expect from "progressives"? They spent all their educational years being taught to be good little proggies, they didn't have time to learn actual science much less to actually think.
     
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    This was the post I was referring to above...not the OP
     
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    If they did believe that, perhaps your closing disparaging closing remark would be relevant. The white supremacists I've run into think that anyone not of central or northern Western Europe are inferior to them. Do you care to apologize?
     
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    Racists almost never recognize their own racism or the racism of the people they admire. I notice in your post you imply that it was OK for Trump to refer to immigrants from Mexico (not just illegal immigrants) as rapists, because "Mexico is not a race." Just for the record, here are Trump's words: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." It was nice of him to "assume" that some people coming from Mexico are good people.

    A few days ago he implied that Mexicans are raping the Central American female immigrants, "And yesterday it came out, where this journey coming up, women are being raped at levels nobody's ever seen before. They don't want to mention that.”

    Racism is generally defined as hostility to people of a different ethnic group. I don't believe Trump considers himself to be ethnically similar to people from Mexico.

    You also didn't address the fact that Trump referred to African nations as s***hole countries. Do you also deny that that was racist?

    As to your last two sentences, do you really believe something so outlandish? However, no matter how outlandish your posts, you are completely unable to admit your error when you are shown to be wrong, aren't you?
     
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    However, you were unable to move on, weren't you? I'll bet you'll even reply to this post although you know I'll never read it. You have repeatedly shown yourself incapable of letting go of a dumb idea, even when you're shouting into the dark.
     
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    You are promoting a witch hunt and you are seeking a dictatorship that is how I can interpret your post. Mexico is not the race, in case you are banned from Google.
    “The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.”

    Confucius
     
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    Nope.

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    This is what he posted:
    Brewskier said:
    Their tactic is to argue IQ tests are either culturally biased towards whites (which doesn’t explain why Jews and Asians outperform whites) or that IQ doesn’t really measure intelligence accurately (which is not substantiated).

    Well how about this? Feeling a little silly and humbled now? Instead you went on a personal attack and rant and of course, dismissed the question. Do not pretend that at least the Asian portion isn't true...........as well as 90% of the rest of it. :roflol:
     
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    Crank it's best not to argue with forum village idiots, just keep slinging facts in their face. Nothing triggers them more than that. :grin: Well done, by the way. :applause:
     
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    One hell of a rebuttal when you haven't got one. :roflol:
     
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    Sagan rebuts well. You are drinking early tonight, navigator2? :roflol:
     
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    Nah. It's Sunday night. You can't rebut the IQ thing. America is dumbed down.
     
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    ^^^ proof
     
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    That makes no sense at all.

    You fail.
     
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    The only country that INTENTIONALLY dumbs down its citizens more than the US is North Korea. We often talk about superpowers or those with the strongest militarily (weaponry) and I guess the US and China are at the top. But for dumbing down the US comes a very strong number 2 in the world.
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    You have reminded me of a video from an Australian TV show.

     
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    Not as much as today, actually.
     
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    Teachers are not causing your social problems. That's a complete lie. I have taught in 4 different countries outside the US, in Western and non-Western countries, with kids who are from those countries and other countries around the world, with administrators and teachers from all over the world. The content of US curriculum and the focus of teachers everywhere is essentially the same as in the US. One of the biggest problems US education has is people like you who blame everything on schools and teachers instead of on the society and its social problems.
     
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    To understand how religious fundamentalists and Leftist 'anti-racists' think, you have to understand one key thing: they do not distinguish fact from value.

    It's a fact that the Earth goes around the Sun, and not the other way around. It's a marker of a people's advancement out of the ignorance of savagery when they understand this, because it's not obvious.

    On the other hand, that we should be kind to each other, that we should honor our father and mother, that we should not steal, that we should follow God's will and obey His appointed representatives on Earth ... these are values. (Not necessarily good ones, just values, "shoulds" rather than "is's". )

    What religious fundamentalists and Leftists do is to mix these up. Thus when Galileo and others proclaimed that the Church's geo-centric astronomy was factually wrong, the response of the Church was not to confront him with the evidence that made the Church believe in geo-centric cosmology, but to threaten him with torture. In their eyes, he had threatened their values -- and you don't believe in values because of factual reasons, and you don't defend them with counter-evidence.

    Similarly, it's extremely easy to determine that the Black violent crime rate is far higher than the white (and that the white is higher than the Asian [in the US], that the male rate is far higher than the female, etc. No serious person disputes these facts. They're easily established -- for instance, consult the FBI Uniform Crime Statistics report -- here.

    But to the Leftist, this is an attack on his values -- one of which is that everyone should be treated equally -- and so he responds, within his means, as the Catholic Church responded to those who questioned the facts of geo-centric cosmology. [I say 'within his means' because Leftists in the US don't have total state power, as the Catholic Church did, and as they do in some countries like Cuba or North Korea. But what power they have -- when they can assemble a violent mob -- they use it to suppress views that upset them. Let me qualify this by saying that not all people on the Left do this, and that there are, and certainly were, people on the Right who would behave in exactly the same way if they could. In fact, it's the human norm, if we look at history, one we were evolving away from.]

    Thus Lesh is unable to counter the facts I presented ... all he/she can do is say 'racist', the latter-day Leftist's equivalent of 'heretic' or 'Commie'.

    This is actually an unintelligent response, since everyone not in the grip of ideology knows that they are true. The question of interest is why the Black crime rate is so much higher than the white, and why the Asian is lower, why males are more violent than females.

    A primitive answer is just "that's the way they are, they're inherently like that". This is probably the default belief of most people about any ethnic group they don't love. I think academics call it "essentialism". "They're just that way." It's what the X's believe about the Y's: fill in almost any pair of tribes you read about in the news for X and Y: Sunnis and Shias, Tamils and Sinhalese, Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics, etc depressing etc.

    A slightly more sophisticated, pseudo-scientific answer is: it's their genes. This is the "Official Racist" answer: it at least has the merit of being subject to investigation.

    This post is too long for our sound-bite generation already, so I'll give just one example that should at least call the "it's in their genes" argument into serious question: if you lived on the eastern Coast of Britain a thousand years ago, one of your daily prayers was, "From the fury of the Norsemen, O Lord, deliver us." They were talking about the Vikings: very scary people if you lived within reach of them. But who are the Vikings today? Danes and Norweigans, the nicest people in the world. Did their genes change? Our should we look to changes in their material environment, to explain this change in their behavior?
     
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    WTF? :eek:

    Musical instruments are mentioned in both the OT and NT in the bible.

    Here a couple of examples;

    In fact there are 5,400 mentions of musical instruments.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/dictionary-of-bible-themes/5421-musical-instruments

     
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    That drivel has been thoroughly debunked.

    Studies have proven that childhood malnutrition is a major factor in adult IQ levels. That applies equally to all nations and races.
     
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    Your opinion is duly noted but it does not alter the the factual results from those scientific studies that established that childhood malnutrition has a lifelong impact on the brain.

    Did you know that 20% of the calories you consume on a daily basis are used by your brain alone?

    Here are the links to the studies on Childhood Malnutrition and IQ levels.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041117005027.htm

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2628311

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26569559

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_health_on_intelligence
     
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