The Dutch People Are Rising Up To Protest "Destructive WEF Climate Law"

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  1. Navy Corpsman

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    The World Economic Forum controlled Dutch government announced last week an end to modern farming – putting harsh controls on nitrogen, and spelling the end to thousands of family farms.


    In response, Dutch farmers took a page out of the Canadian Freedom Convoy playbook. They took to the highways, blockaded borders, and launched massive protests.

    https://thecountersignal.com/dutch-uprising/

    Clearly this is a "Current Event" that the GOOD people can follow with great interest over at ----> https://twitter.com/hashtag/dutchfarmers


    Also the best resistance to these megalomaniac WEF creeps and their handpicked S'elected government puppets with their "rigged" elections, is non-compliance.

    And don't ever give up your firearms----> PERIOD!
    Remember that they're millions of us and they're very few of them genociders .

     
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    The WEF et al believe that the only way to retain their elitist power is to actively attack the people, to create war and famine. To kill off the evil parasites they believe infect their perfect utopian world view. Yes, we must always protect ourselves from those who so abuse their privilege. The let them eat cake crowd. Or ice cream in the case of the witch of San Fransisco...

    When the elite attack the food supply (have you seen how much farm land Bill Gates is trying to take off line)... it's time for the people to stand up in a united way to tell these elitist tyrants, that they are not welcome.
     
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    Are these so-called family farms going to go belly up due to a fertilizer? Aren't there other types on the market that are more efficient and don't pollute the air?

    There are good reasons to discontinue the use of nitrogen. It took me less than five seconds to find this:

    https://biolres.biomedcentral.com/a...N) plays an important,and better crop out-put.

    Just read the abstract and the introduction. Perhaps these Dutch farmers are simply resistant to change, like most right wingers seem to be.
     
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    Like what? Did you even bother to read the article? Or are you just incensed that the people are rising up against the tyranny of the Green?
     
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    The Dutch police opened fire.
     
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    Destructive? Dear God! You should feel what we're experiencing in Florida. It's hot hot hot! And every single year it's hotter than the previous one. And, of course, what we feel in Florida is anecdotal, but the worldwide data confirms it. Where will this all end if we don't stop producing global warming?

    Something's gotta give. It's either the industries that profit from warming the planet, or it's civilization. That's the choice.

    Just wanted to remind everybody. Not interested in getting into another debate with anti-science denialists, thank you.
     
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    It’s not “Science” when all your scientists are the ones that are from these government hacks who are promulgating this global warming FARCE.

    Who could forget when their Doomsday numbers didn’t add up, so the WEF and their U.N. IPCC hack scientist just fudged the numbers and were caught red handed doing it.
     
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    I appreciate your concern for the environment. Are you a Vegan?
     
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    Combatting climate change is a ruse for controlling the population.
     
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    It's summer time. Of course it's hot...lol
     
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    That too is a fabricated lie by the current administration! I live less than seven miles from SF Phosphates between them and Vernal Utah they produce more fertilizer then the U.S. need for the growth season :)

    In fact anyone living around here can grab a few bags free at the entry gate whenever they like, same goes for the arm and hammer laundry soap, lil further drive though ;)

    I've not bought either one in, hell, twenty plus years at least ;)

    Then again, if we were producing domestic crude, we could corner the market on fertilizers!!
     
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    A single location is meaningless. Generally, when one area has excessively hot or cold temperatures, there are other areas on earth which have just the opposite.

    The only way to determine whether there is global warming is by calculating an average of all the temperatures.

    The question is not whether we have global warming. The question is what is causing it. And that, is the controversy and our ability to forecast it. The earth has been in a warming trend since the ice age and the difficulty lies with what portion is manmade and what portion is natural.
     
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    That is the bottom line.
     
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    What’s bizarre about the approach the Netherlands is taking is the fact no Dutch or other EU citizen who buys Dutch ag products is going to consume less. The only positive will be locally in possibly reduced algae blooms in local waters, less nitrate in groundwater (their water table is very high exacerbating this problem), and possibly less low level ozone pollution.

    The elephant in the room is the Netherlands will just be outsourcing total N pollution to other countries in the EU and world. There will be no positive effect on global warming, global ozone pollution, or global water nitrate levels. In fact there may be negative results if the production of food is outsourced to countries with LESS judicious use of N than seen in the Netherlands. Other countries like China are far less likely to implement urease inhibitor/nitrification inhibitor use or select plant genetics for nitrogen use efficiency. Other countries like China are also less likely to responsibly handle N in animal waste. So anyone lauding this development in the Netherlands as a path to mitigating climate change is delusional and/or ignorant of the N cycle.

    Something I found very disturbing was the attempts of the Dutch government to limit protein content of animal feed. This seems odd considering it would be counterproductive in the long run. One reason is that limiting protein in cattle (we are talking mostly dairy cattle there) decreases productivity requiring more animals to produce the same amount of milk. Also, and this is huge for large ruminants that must be fed for neatly two years before coming into lactation/production for the first time, reduced protein diets during gestation result in offspring that have weaker immune systems and less lifetime production potential. So limiting protein intake to decrease N loss to the atmosphere creates the need for more suboptimal quality animals to replace a lesser number of healthy animals. The long period of growth and development before beginning lactation compounds the problem over time much like compounding interest drives up debt for the debtor.

    I’ve said repeatedly that if people want to address climate change through agriculture the people MUST change their consumption habits. There is no other option at this point. Limiting production in places like the Netherlands will just require that lost production be made up for in more irresponsible countries.

    Nitrogen fixing non-legume crops are still in their infancy and the highest potential technologies will be GMO’s anyway which Europe would likely ban.

    In the US we have come a long ways in reducing N pollution just in the last 20 years. For example, my nitrogen use per bushel of corn has dropped from about 1.3 lb of N/bushel to 0.85-0.9 lb. N/bushel. Also, the last few years we have been using urease and nitrification inhibitors to decrease volatilization of urea based products. Also split applications at times where loss is less likely has become more popular.

    But the Netherlands are in a unique position where their production is far more concentrated on smaller tracts of land with a high water table. I feel bad for the farmers there. They have been producing food for themselves and much of Europe as their government has encouraged by pushing ag exports. Now many of those farmers will have their farms taken away….for doing what they were encouraged to do.
     
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    Have any credible sources with a copy of the new law? This is super-hyperbole and it is hard to know if the story is even credible. They aren't going to stop farming by eliminating nitrogen LOL!
     
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    I haven’t seen the law but this isn’t all hyperbole though the article in the OP is short on details. I’ve read up on it some and the proposed measures are pretty draconian. I didn’t save all the links I read today but one implied this is policy in progress where a lot of details are yet to be hammered out. One concern of the farmers seems to be regulations will vary a lot by region so it’s seen as unfair.
     
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    Is the Dutch government simply tired of its country existing?
     
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    when people say things like this I wonder what the hell they teach kids in school.

    You do understand the entire planet shares the same air right? If you ship farming off to somewhere else where they don't care about using this type of fertilizer or maybe worse you're not doing any good all you really doing is screwing over your own agricultural industry.

    Yes it would break some of these forms farming is life on the margins it seems like you're probably a city dweller and think food comes from this magical grocery store it doesn't it takes intensive labor to grow it for you. And the people doing this labor barely break even. Except for the giant multi-billion dollar conglomerates that this will probably help because they can probably get away with using whatever fertilizer they want they've got the money to pay off governments.

    transporting the problem to other countries solves it how?


    Are you kidding me do you think the Netherlands is mega country?

    I tell you one thing if governments keep jabbing daggers into their own chests to try and suicide their Nation the Netherlands France maybe Scotland will be MAGA a country.
    Or MNGA, MFGA.

    Please spread this insane nonsense so that we can inoculate people who wish to survive from the profound work stupidity that is crippling our countries right now. The more people get tired of this bullshit quicker we can move past it
     
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    It’s amazing how progressives have been conditioned to believe natural cycles including the Carbon and Nitrogen cycles are “bad”. Their “evolution” is what allows all life on the planet!

    Microbiota in soils and water constantly release free N into the atmosphere. If they didn’t all N would eventually be locked up in the ocean and life on earth would mostly cease to exist.

    Yes, over fertilization is a problem and has been in the era of cheap fossil fuels and global demand for cheap, calorie rich low nutrient food. But the idea nitrogen in the atmosphere or anywhere else is inherently bad is absurd as you point out.
     
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    Nitrogen is just another global warming con-job that is being used as an excuse from those elites at the top of the power structure pyramid to take control of every aspect of the human society from those on the bottom of the pyramid.

    The facts are, that the earths atmosphere is composed of about 78 percent nitrogen. Yes, that's right 78 percent of the air we breathe is nitrogen.

    Twenty one percent oxygen, 0.9 percent argon, and 0.1 percent other gases.

    Trace amounts of carbon dioxide. Thats right the other green house global warming climate change boogeyman is the immeasurable trace amounts of Co2, with methane, water vapor, and neon which make up the other gases In the remaining 0.1 percent.
     
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    It seems that the Dutch government is also controlled by the WEF and U.N. With their installed muppets. Herr Klaus Schwab was recently bragging about this in 2017, when he openly stated that the WEF and his minions have "infiltrated" the cabinets of all the G-20 governments.
     
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    So it's just the axis powers at it again.
     
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    Looks like it's time for Europeans to go to war against the EU.
     
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    It's not about nitrogen in the atmosphere as in N02.
    It's about nitrogen in manure like NH3. Basically, it's that nice "country" smell.
    It can turn into NH4 with water. You know... stuff in the rain.
    And there it can turn into Nh4, which is a compound in acid rain.

    Remember... that is the crap that kills plants.
     
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