The Dutch People Are Rising Up To Protest "Destructive WEF Climate Law"

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  1. 19Crib

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    Nothing worse than Florida in July! (Maybe thats why the Indians were so ornery!)
     
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    they will decide based on what's better for their pocketbook that's what they do that's probably what this is about because it's always what this sort of thing is about not about environment that's just a lie people like you when you believing it.
    No that's called fascism if you want to live under a fascist dictator because they say they're smarter than you I'm sure you can find a country that can accommodate you.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the main argument against Communist command economies.

    Trying to run an entire national economy can be very complicated.

    Doesn't sound like a very functional democracy to me.

    That's a fundamental problem in any political system, and it is somewhat of an intractable problem.

    Political parties fill this role somewhat. But to do that, the voters have to be able to trust that the political parties are competent and that they actually have the voter group's own best interests in mind.

    Or maybe you think the society can rely on the news media for all the information needed to run the country. (sarcasm)

    What you just brought up is a big issue, but it is a complicated one. We could start a separate very long thread discussing this.

    It's NOT as a simple as just "politicians should just do a better job of finding experts whom they can rely on".

    Lots of times politicians rely on experts who are not really qualified to be making those decisions, because the politicians do not really know what type of people are actually best qualified to make those decisions. Or different groups of experts might completely disagree about something.

    This is a big problem not just in politics but in the court system too. The courts and juries do not always know how to properly interpret expert testimonies, and these expert testimonies can sometimes lead to very wrong decisions.
     
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    I love hot weather. Cold weather sucks ass.
     
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    They have already created the stronger NATO on more of the Russian border that the Pootster said he was determined to stop. They have already pushed Ukraine into an embrace with the EU that the Pootster said he was determined to stop.
    Judged by their own war aims, the Russians are already defeated.
     
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    Just wow!!

    Are you really that duped by what political candidates say about themselves?

    The whole point of my paragraph was that we have to be smart enough to see through that.

    And, you need to look up the definition of fascism.
     
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    You need to explain how you made your leap to communism.
    I don't trust the parties like that.

    We need to check out who it is we're voting for and whether they have two neurons to rub together.

    We have a number of congressmen who reject science based medicine and believe in homeopathy - which includes absolutely ZERO verification of any kind. And, THEY are making decisions on how to defend America against COVID!!!

    One doesn't have to be a genius to sniff out candidates who have no clue about finding valid evidence for decision making.
     
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    attacking me instead of addressing the position is indication of a weak position.
    the point of my response is the government is the absolute cause of the problem.

    They cannot be the solution.
    Why because not your word and you get to use it to describe people you don't like?

    I'm applying at appropriately to a European dictator.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The voters will never do that. That's just the reality.

    Living an election system (only one representative can be appointed from within each district) that is pretty much set up to become a two-party system does not help either.

    Like many on the Progressive Left, you simply have naive unrealistic expectations about how things can work.

    (And yet you want to push a larger percentage of the population to vote, what an irony!)
     
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    That "the government is the problem" mantra is an immediate failure, as there are numerous issues we face that private enterprise has neither the interest nor the means to address.
     
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    The system we have can work FAR better than it works today.

    It has worked far better in the past. We didn't have to let it get so out of hand as it is today.

    Yes, we need to make it equally possible for all citizens to vote.

    The Republican direction of using the law to deny representation to a significant percent of our population is a direct assault on democracy - an assault that has included lethal violence.

    Democracy works when people believe in it. When they don't, the system crumbles. And, THAT is what Republicans are striving for today.
     
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    Yes, if only we had magic fairy dust.

    What exactly is your solution to problem?

    So you want to go back to conservative principles and how things were in the past? (I didn't think so)

    I have no idea what that even means. That is pretty much the case today.

    Plus, if you think the problem is voters not paying enough attention, then encouraging unenthusiastic people to come out and vote, just for the sake of voting, is not a good idea. It will make the problem worse.
     
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    I disagree with your contention. It is not that simple. Maybe an argument we could have in another thread. (Please leave the link here)
     
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    More stupid and low IQ voters will mean an end to democracy.
     
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    Who are you calling stupid?
     
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    Spoken like a true worshiper.

    Yes I'm blaspheming your puny little god. It's incompetent at every level. I don't know why you worship it what's wrong with you?
     
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    The "system" we have?

    The system we have is "RIGGED" and has always been "RIGGED" except it was much harder to execute it prior to the "binary coded voting machines" [1's & 0's] where the manipulation of the s'election process of their chosen "puppets" is done with a few easy key strokes now, as to all the dead bodies voting and ballot stuffing at the polling stations of days gone by.

    And I'm sorry to burst your bubble on "Democracy" but only the most naive persons are foolish enough to believe that the "elites" at the top of the government-run-pyramid scheme are actually letting the bottom feeding Untermenschen chose the policies that would have a profound and direct effect on their generational power structure and financial wealth.
     
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    Encouraging people to vote who don't know anything themselves and aren't going to trouble themselves to do any research.

    Be honest, you just want to people to vote based on what the news media tells them.
     
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    they have real issues, the Canada truck drivers did not
     
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    Careful now don't insult the Democrat voting base.

    The trick is promise free **** and don't deliver. Then talk about how white supremacists are racist your opponent is for a little bit. You can even take over organizations like the ADL and splc too firm these claims.
     
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    I wouldn't say that, but I would say their issues are greater than the Canada truck drivers and this protest is more justified.
     
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    I can agree with that
     
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    Really?

    Well guess what?

    That "cretin" and WEF installed "imbecile" at the top of the Canadian government with his Minister of Agriculture, Marie-Claude Bibeauand is marching the Canadian farmers right down the same Herr Klaus Schawb's "scripted" Great 'utopian' Reset path as the Dutch farmers with this phony nitrogen is causing "global warming" FARCE.

    Their WEF controlled Lib'TARD government is hiking the tax-on-everything carbon tax, and soon to be nitrogen, while Canadians struggle like never before with skyrocketing prices for essentials like food and fuel, heating, and housing.


    Government seeks guidance on path towards reducing emissions associated with fertilizer
     
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    what, lol? that is to do with Covid supply issues, nothing to do with what you are blaming it on, would you prefer a Repug'**** government

    weird how that word is filtered from my posts but not yours?
     
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    Get a grip, eh?

    I said it took me 5 seconds to find the information I linked. I actually spent a bit more reading the article, as well as reading a couple of additional web pages on the subject.

    Maybe just deal with your own research habits and don't criticize mine.
     

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