The Future EU Army

Of course they don't like each other, and both of them don't like the British for obvious reasons. It's known as historical memory, and it's embedded in their genes.

 

Trump want's Germany to build up its armed forces, so we can stop footing the bill. Anyway Germany doesn't have the natural resources that Russia and the US have, so it will be dependent on other nations - unless of course it gets together with Russia.

Friedman of Stratfor said that is what the US always feared, so our foreign policy in the past century was to keep Russia and Germany apart. I think he's wrong though, since the Germans were a dominant force in the US before the false flag sinking of the Lusitania. It was Britain that did everything to keep them apart, and we tagged along as we always do.

Anyway right now it would take years for Germany and the US to reach the level of Russia's high tech hypersonic and electronic weapons. This is why Trump said he's furious with Obama for not paying more attention to our military. Not that I agree with him. The Russian Federation has not shown itself to be aggressive but we have.

 

Of course Germany doesn't want to leave the EU, nor does it want a break up of the EU since Germany is the only who has gained economically. This is why Merkel keeps dragging nations into it, and why Nigel Farage was always adamantly against the EU, and wants Britain to leave.

The problem with Germany is not just its economic policies which hinder the development of other nations, (austerity comes to mind), but also its social ones which are part of Soros' liberal one world order. It's tyrannical the way 'international' communism was, since it limits individual freedom and choice, and is being imposed on others through propaganda and other deceptive means.

Anyway this is my opinion.

 

What a surprize.

 

Trump has been very successful in decimating the relations with our allies.

 

I find it funny french complain about what happend in WW II but ignore that France pillaged the Rhineland before. Raped, murdered and all that. WW II was paypack.

 

The goal was, and still is to create an economic union.

 

Thats wrong. The goal is to create a super state. The EU is undemocratic. Nobody elected that comission.

 

I was ironic. I think that WW1 couldn't be avoided after 1916. WW1 has reached then a non-return point in the violence and it ended basically as a self inflicted genocide of the europeans.

 

Sorry, but you are mistaken.

 

When did i elect Junker as head of the comission. Also when did i elect any member of the comission?

 

That has nothing to do with the claim you made about their goal of creating a "super state". EU is an economic and political union. It was never meant to be a state let alone a "super-state". The other poster also said one of their goals was to eliminate the national languages. Pure nonsense.

 

Of course their goal is to create a super state

Junker even said it, his goal is a United States of Europe.

I want the EU to break up and die. As a young german i have nothing from this **** project

 

May is going to go down in history as the single most idiotic, moronic, stupid, dumbest and every other synonym for below average intelligence that you can come up with, PM in the UKs ENTIRE history. She had the EU by the balls and instead rolled over like a $5 hooker and took it up the ass. The EU needed Britain far more than Britain needed the EU and she didn't use any of that leverage and just squandered all of it.

Germany is the only remaining country in the EU that is capable of putting up a military of any size and proficiency and by international law.........they can't. The EU is dying and fumbling and I am laughing myself to sleep every night thinking about it (not really for you literal types out there) as the Lords and Ladies find their power diminish.

 

You are mistaken. EU goal was never to create a state. let alone a 'super state'. And no, Junker did not suggest EU should become one state.

 

Too bad you are wrong

Viviane Reding[edit]
In 2012, Viviane Reding, the Luxembourgish Vice-President of the European Commission called in a speech in Passau Germany and in a series of articles and interviews for the establishment of the United States of Europe as a way to strengthen the unity of Europe.[28]

Martin Schulz[edit]
In December 2017, Martin Schulz, who was then the new leader of the German Social Democratic Party, called for a new constitutional treaty for a "United States of Europe".[30] He proposed that this constitution should be written by "a convention that includes civil society and the people" and that any state that declined to accept this proposed constitution should have to leave the bloc.[30] The Guardian's view was that his proposal was "likely to be met with some resistance from [Angela] Merkel and other EU leaders".[30] On that day he also stated that he would like to see a "United States of Europe" by 2025.[31]

 

I do not care what some person named Martin Schultz or 'sobo' say, or what words they choose. The goal of EU was never to create one nation / state out of the member nations / states. It simply was never the goal, and neither will it ever happen.

 

Martin Schulz was president of the EU parliament.

When the president of the EU parliament says the ultimate goal is a EU superstate, i take him by his word.

 

The thing about these unions is that they override individual national law and policies so Germany would likely no longer be held under these restrictions if they formed this union.

 

He did not say anything about a 'superstate', you did. No one has suggested EU should become one nation.

Feel free to believe any conspiracy theory you want.

 

Several people proposed (one should know what the word 'propose' means) a "United states of Europe" and called for more unity to strengthen Europe's position on the international stage, among them Schulz and Junker, they didn't propose an undemocratic 'superstate.' A proposition doesn't mean this is what's going to happen, it's a proposition, nothing more.
Btw, the OP is not really correct. French president Macron didn't say that Europe has to defend or protect itself in a military sense from the US.

 

On that day he also stated that he would like to see a "United States of Europe" by 2025.[31]

A united States of Europe would be a super state. What else would it be?

 

Again, no one suggested EU should become one nation, so obviously it would not be a 'state' or any kind. Whoever said 'united states of Europe' did not mean what you think it meant. Such thing is a hypothetical scenario, and never a goal of EU.

 

Your own link says "Superstate".

That said, i´m a German. I will never be a European. I will fight against any form of attempted take over of Germany.

I´m a future police officer and will never follow orders of a non german. And since there are millions like me in Germany...all this Superstate bullshit stay wishful thinking of some elitist morons.

 

The link explains "superstate" is speculative fiction and science fiction. Contrary to what you think, it was never the goal of EU.