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The GOP must Evolve or become relevant.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by AboveAlpha, Apr 28, 2016.

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    I suspect the polls will tighten once the conventions are over.
     
    Zorro, Apr 28, 2016
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  2. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Face it...you are NOT going to vote for Clinton if your an Evangelical.

    Thus it makes no sense for any GOP candidate to cater to your group.

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    Sure they will.

    But if Trump want's to win...he MUST campaign from a much more moderate standpoint.

    AA
     
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  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    And in a more general sense... open their clogged ears/minds. They aren't EVEN listening to the general outcry of ALL the American people. Sure, I understand catering to their "base"... but those people aren't the ONLY Americans that need to be heard/represented.

    They need to drop the extremist and intransigence; there must be 'compromise' in a society such as this one.
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 28, 2016
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    The GOP are big government growers and spenders. Clear Leftist ideals.
     
    Pooblius, Apr 28, 2016
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  5. Bassman

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    We tried meralymouthed RINO moderates in the last two elections.
     
    Bassman, Apr 28, 2016
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  6. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    That's similar to the excessively homophobic behavior that lots of closeted gay men get into as well.
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 28, 2016
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  7. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    Catering to a base that no longer exists in any sizable numbers is idiocy.

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    Excuse me?

    One thing I know for certain is that any man who is fearful of women's issues and feminism is a whining sniveling little boy who will never become a man.

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    After Bush W there was ZERO CHANCE that any Republican would win the Presidency for at least 8 to 12 years.

    AA
     
    AboveAlpha, Apr 28, 2016
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Me thinks your testosterone levels are off the chart.
     
    gamewell45, Apr 28, 2016
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    This country needs to shift farther right socially than it is now. But you lovers of immorality would just love to get rid of all criminal law.
     
    Bassman, Apr 28, 2016
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    The GOP has become socially conservative and fiscally liberal. The exact opposite of the US population.
     
    toddwv, Apr 28, 2016
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    Bush and his circle were those Republicans I mentioned in my first post.

    [video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zwWqMPqkU[/video]
     
    Pooblius, Apr 28, 2016
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    What you have just posted is EXACTLY what is causing the collapse of the GOP.

    The GOP should stick to concentrating upon helping to develop a business environment conductive to growth and jobs.

    Discussing religion just hurts them.

    Those day's are long gone in 21st century America.

    AA
     
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  13. Johnny-C

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    Rephrase:

    Many of the most homophobic men I've met and/or heard about, were either unsure of their own sexuality OR covering some alternative orientation of their own.
     
    Johnny-C, Apr 28, 2016
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    OK...I thought there was something up.

    LOL!!

    AA
     
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    You're out of touch there. The nation shifted MUCH further toward the religious right... since the 1980's, but most of that was TALK and little action. Politicians (especially) put on facades (shows) to garner "Christian" votes... leading to MANY people absolutely mixing their religion with political shenanigans.

    And make no mistake about it... the sowing of such deception and hypocrisy DID have the effect of chasing MANY honest and decent people AWAY from God/religion. Some of the loudest proponents of such "morality" (as you refer to) were corrupt preachers and deceptive politicians; "conservative", "Republican" people.

    Morality cannot be legislated. But I would agree that certain behaviors can be deterred with the threat of prosecution and directly applied penalties. (That reminds me... some of the Wall Street types have been allowed to get away with a LOT of terrible things.)
     
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  16. Johnny-C

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    Becoming 'moderates' would make the most sense on ALL sides. All this, "My way or the highway!", BS... isn't doing America a damned bit of good (overall).
     
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    He probably will.
     
    Zorro, Apr 29, 2016
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    It isn't clear that the US population is fiscally conservative at all. This election is going to come down to Trump vs. Clinton, and neither of them are fiscally conservative.
     
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    We really need to get spending under control.

    AA
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am kind of hoping that we Canadians can get something going that will bring the G.O.P. into being more accurate regarding the seriousness of climate change.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...rael-and-jordan.506627/page-3#post-1068000582
     
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    Impossible to do in todays world! Far to expensive with the amount GDP and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better any time soon..

    We aint in Kansas anymore toto!

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    And it's only going to get worse as migration continues and jobs dry up.. There has to be a voice of honesty and I personally don't believe the Democrat party is that when it comes to Social funding and current economic trends!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The G.O.P. needs to take a serious look at what was accomplished by President Lincoln and attempted by JFK.


    http://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy
    ....
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But..... we need to direct those 4.3 Trillion in a manner that will elevate how economists in most nations look at money itself and its relationship to productivity.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/

     
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    Trump has given the bullies of America new hope of being capable of even being President after high school - he just forgot to tell them you have to be born on 3rd base too
     
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    yes, by not starting 10+ year wars
     
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