If Pelosi finally gives the impeachment to the Senate and they turn it down right off the bat, what do you think the history books will say, especially when they print Hillary saying we have been waiting for two and a half years to impeach him and other Democrats saying, we have to impeach him or he'll win again in Nov.? It will look to everyone that the democrats were trying to pull a political coup.No, it won't make Trump look bad, especially having the hottest economy on the planet. It will make the Democrats look bad.
You know Sandy, we finally agree on something. I keep saying Trump's mouth is his worst enemy. He needs to learn to keep it shut.
You have to really think about this. Do you really think history is going to look kindly on anything pro-trump? How does history look at jim crow? How does it look at nazism. Those things had strong partisan support, but they were obviously wrong.
Trump was neither. They will have to look at this. More people working than any time in our history. Minorities have the lowest unemployment in their history. Stock market highest in our history September 8 at 5:12 AM · Record 157,878,000 Employed in August “The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,878,000 in August, the 21st record set under President Donald Trump, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics,” Susan Jones reports for CNS News. “The unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent. For blacks, the unemployment rate dropped to a record low of 5.5 percent last month. And for Hispanics, the... Unemployment rate was 4.2 percent in August, which ties the record low set earlier this year.” Click here to read more. “It’s been a lost summer for the Washington Post,” White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham and Principal Deputy Press Secretary Hogan Gidley write in the Washington Examiner. “Despite record-setting accomplishments in record-setting time, data shows the news coverage of Trump has been 92% negative. The most egregious and dangerous forms of this bias thrived this summer at media outlets like the Washington Post, which routinely masquerade opinion as news.” A whopping 266,000 jobs was created in November, with 54,000 manufacturing jobs created. All the while Canada lost jobs. Economist are blown away and Biden predicting a recession.
Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar workers are shrinking the wage gap Monthly reports on the number of new jobs and the unemployment rate can drown out important trends like these two: After four decades of worsening, wage inequality has started shrinking. And in a twist, America’s blue-collar workers are playing the biggest role in driving that reversal. This may come as a surprise, because education is classically seen as a ladder up the income scale. Despite blue-collar workers often lacking college degrees, their wages have been accelerating faster than those of their white-collar counterparts. For example: In the past three years, white-collar workers, the sector that the Bureau of Labor Statistics classifies as “Management, Professional, and Related Occupations” and which encompasses 40% of the workforce, have seen their wages grow by nearly 7.5%. During the same period, all other workers, a group composed almost entirely of noncollege grads, have seen their paychecks grow by about 10 percent. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...equality-shrinking-economy-column/1955329001/
The economy is pretty good depending on who you are. But, nobody could point to any connection between what trump has done and the positives of the economy. Are you guys so blown away by how obama turned the economy around and created this is economy? In the end, all defense of all of trump's actions (and almost all of them need defending) depend on super partisan faith. Most of it around "it isn't technically illegal or technically treason." When the partisan stuff is gone, and actual history is looked at, the focus will be on the corruption, anti-Americanism, and criminality. How could it not?
This is what Obama left us. You listen to much to CNN and MSNBC Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ... www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/... Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama? Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/... Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs, The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants. In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery. “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?” The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said. But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million. HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low… 77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation... Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks. "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level. https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
Here is why Obama lost so many good jobs. He chased companies away with his health care, record regulations and the highest corporate taxes in the whole industrial world. (In a race to the finish, Obama administration presses ahead ... www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-a-race-to-the... Cached As the future Trump administration begins to take shape, the Obama White House is engaged in a frenzied, final effort to put in place as many new rules and regulations as time allows. 20,642 New Regulations Added in the Obama Presidency www.dailysignal.com/2016/05/23/20642-new... Cached More than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually. Does the U.S. Have the Highest Corporate Tax Rates in the ... https://www.financialsense.com/cont.../matthew-kerkhoff/does... Proponents of this thesis will draw attention to the fact that the US has the highest corporate income tax rate in the industrialized world, currently at 39.1% (based on the 35% federal rate and the average rate levied by US states), see chart below. This high rate puts companies at a big disadvantage
But now that we're in the midst of a booming economy — which kicked in after Trump reversed almost all Obama's economic policies — we're supposed to believe that it's Obama who deserves all the credit. Yep. That's precisely what Obama and his Amen Chorus in the press want us to believe. In his speech in Illinois last Friday, Obama complained that Republicans were taking credit for his work. "When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started," he said. "I mean, I'm glad it's continued, but … suddenly Republicans are saying it's a miracle." This week, White House Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Kevin Hassett wisely set the record straight. At a briefing on Monday, he noted that just about every important economic indicator showed the economy was stalling out in Obama's last year. Hassett explained that small business optimism had been on the decline before the November 2016 election. The percentage of businesses saying it's a good time to expand was, too. Business investment was stagnant. All those turned upward starting in 2017. Applications for new businesses are now well above the trend over Obama's entire second term, Hassett noted. And blue-collar jobs are growing faster than any time since the Reagan administration. Turnaround on GDP Growth There's more. The rate of GDP growth was decelerating in Obama's last year. It went from 2.3% in Q2, to 1.9% in Q3 to 1.8% in Q4 of 2016. Under Trump, GDP growth has averaged 2.9%. It was 4.2% last quarter and might be higher in the current one. The stock market also was stuck in neutral the year before the November 2016 elections. The Dow is up by some 45% since then. Real median family income didn't budge from August 2015 to November 2016, according to Sentier Research. It's up more than 4% since Trump came into office. Wages are on the upswing. https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-trump-booming-economy/
agreed the trumpeters say the democrats were screaming impeachment before trump ever took office that may be true ….and many other accusations may be true as well, ie; the steele dossier, hillary is crooked ect; I agree Hillary is slimey but that has nothing to do with trump being a lowlife slime ball himself did Hillary have anything to do with trump and "grabbem by the Pu$$y" did Hillary have anything to do with the 34 trump supporters indicted by mueller?? is micheal cohen and others in prison for lying about Hillary or trump did the democrats refuse to release trumps taxes?? did the democrats stand next to Putin and Kim and give them credibility?? did the democrats go before the world and say he believed Putin over US intelligence?? did the democrats defend the murderer in Charlotte?? are the democrats parroting the wishes of the Russians and accusing Ukraine of election interference?? have the democrats tried to involve a foreign country in the 2020 election?? have the democrats pardoned convicted war criminals?? how ruthless must a soldier be to be charged with a crime during a war?? even if the democrats are hypocrites.. it does not excuse trumps behavior and actions.. it is the insanity of trump himself is why he is impeached ... trump could shoot someone walking down 5th avenue and not lose support kinda sad that some people do not care if a disgusting human being is the president
And that hasn't changed. Do we remember clinton for presiding over a fantastic economy or balancing the budget? Mostly he is remembered for being impeached even though it was a far far weaker accusation. Was nixon remembered for NOT being convicted in the senate? He was remembered for his corruption. And by comparison, the corruption and anti-democratic actions of trump make nixon look like Lincoln. At the time, nixon was about as popular as trump. Again, when the partisan stuff is gone, there won't be the silly both sides stuff. There will be the Americans, and those that followed trump. Just like there were humans, and those that fought for segregation.
I don't see it. History is going to show what Trump did and what Pelosi and other Democrats said and they are going to know it was nothing but a political coup. How will history look at it if Trump runs in Nov. and wins with more votes than he did this time?
Wait till this new report comes out on the fake dossier and it shows the FBI knew it wasn't verified and some of it was wrong and that the FBI knew it, yet pushed in on the FISA Court, signing that it was verified. Not telling the court that it was bought and paid for by Hillary and the Democratic Party. You still don't think history won't look at it as a political coup?
Trump will always be a two asterisk President ... *One of two modern Presidents NOT to be able to win both the popular vote AND the Electoral College vote. **One of two modern Presidents to be impeached. History is kinda funny that way - it records what happened, not what tin-foil hat types want to believe happened.
Well, if you don't see it, then you should probably take your country a little more seriously, this stuff isn't a joke. Again, take away the part where your emmotions are completely tied up in supporting a demagogue. Suppose some random leader told another leader that he needed him to lie for him. Then immediately after stole money that the second leader needed, and only released it when somebody reported him. Are you going to really look at that guy as innocent? Imagine the best defense was that everyone testifying against him (except one) was only indirectly involved, but then used all of his substantial power to keep anyone else from testifying. And, we aren't even gettign into all of the things that were 'technically' legal like handing highly classified intel to hostile foreign operatives. All of these things are only defended by a thread. The defenses are always super thin technicalities that won't hold up without partisan bias.
Just the first one. That one didn't have the power to bring forth testimony, a grad jury or to press charges. This one, the Durham Report will and it looks like charges are going to be filed on a number of people. Barr and Durham Publicly Disagree With Horowitz Report on ... https://www.nytimes.com › barr-durham-ig-report-russia-investigation Dec 9, 2019 - WASHINGTON — When the Mueller report was made public this spring, Attorney General William P. Barr seemed to try to blunt its finding
By the way, let me remind you that impeachment is in the constitution. A coup is a takeover of the government. If you think impeachment is coup, then you believe that trump is 'the government'. This is America, not a tinpot dictatorship, and don't treat it like one. Show some respect for democracy and your country.
FBI Failed to Inform FISA Court that Steele Dossier ... - Yahoo https://www.yahoo.com › entertainment › fbi-failed-inform-fisa-court-171... Dec 5, 2019 - FBI Failed to Inform FISA Court that Steele Dossier was Unreliable: Report ... to mention as much in the later applications to the FISA court for warrants to surveil Page. .... She added, “Jesus loves me and he hates Fox News. Secret FISA court issues highly unusual public rebuke of FBI ... https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › justice-department › secret-fisa-court... Dec 17, 2019 - WASHINGTON — The secret federal court that approves orders for conducting surveillance on suspected foreign terrorists or spies issued a