The Impossible Photo

As the drumbeat for war again unfolds in Syria, I note the British secret state have reignited the Skripal / Salisbury / Amesbury poisoning incident.

As they did just prior to the Douma false flag incident when the US, UK and France had prepared a massive military strike against the Syrian military (HERE). In the event the planned decapitation strike did not take place because Russia threatened to counter strike any military platform in the region that launched strikes against Syria should one Russian be injured or killed.

The entire Russian did it Novichok story in the UK is so laced with ridiculous and competing anomalies, that it now widely laughed at. If one ever wanted an example of amateur hour in the way these events have been fabricated and/or manipulated, simply read past media articles.

The below article by Craig Murray reveals yet another of the many flaws and inconsistencies of this story that has been clearly designed to align the British and world public. As usual it fails miserably.

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/the-impossible-photo/

 

Your Gov, police and Intel agencies all lie to you - Putin is your friend, assimilate to gain true freedom !

 

Are there any other images of the two men? Are there any CCTV images of them together? If there are, then why does anyone think this matters?

This reeks of the sort of desperation that led the same author to claim a few months back that the UK poisoned two of its own citizens to distract from the World Cup in Russia and the 'attractive and friendly' Russians (paraphrasing). of course, it won't really be his claim. he is just relaying something someone else gave him.

I look forward to an army of Putin propagandists micro analysing every photo to 'prove' that none of them are where they claim to be, that none of the photos are in England & that the two men are actually British agents...or somesuch.

You fools have been pushing the 'war in Syria' barrow for years now. So, when are Western powers going to intervene against Assad with more than a few bombs? When to they start the comprehensive bombing campaign that would destroy his military inside a week (which the US is capable of doing). When do the ground troops start moving into Assad controlled territory in large numbers? I'll take a 6 month period if that makes is easier. Of course, it isn't going to happen. You probably know that deep down, but conspiracy theories need their grand narrative.

 

Below is today's piece on the Off Guardian website that presents some of the glaring contradictions in the Salisbury / Amesbury Novichok affair. Tye Met police Dep Comm., Neil Basu's presser is well worth listening to also. He admits they have no evidence that confirms the two men are GRU agents and asks the public to help them with identification.

https://off-guardian.org/2018/09/05/skripal-case-suspects-named-questions-raised/

 

I'm sure the one on the left is wearing a fake beard. And I've seen the other one somewhere, too - I think it was in t'chippy, when I was in the queue for fish 'n chips last week. He wasn't speaking in Russian then - I heard him say as plain as you please 'Large cod, if you please guvnor, and six penn'orth of chips.'

 

Craig Murray's latest blog post (HERE) discusses an important, possibly critical point. Ever since this affair grabbed the headlines the narrative have been consistently found wanting. For example, based on available information, we know that the Skripal's left their home at 09:15 on Sunday March 4 2018 and visited various places in Salisbury culminating in being found on a park bench at 16:15 when emergency services were called.

The unlikely narrative has been that the Skripal's both touched the front door knocker when leaving the house at 09:15 and that the door knocker had previously been "smeared" with Novichok in a "gel" form that was then discarded by the assassin/s and by chance recovered and innocently used in the Amesbury incident (ignoring the the fact that the Amesbury Novichok was in a liquid form for use as a perfume aerosol bottle itself inside a sealed presentation box wrapped in cellophane).

The problem with the new story of the two Russians fingered for this assassination attempt on the Skripal's is that, according to the Metropolitan Police's own timeline, neither of the alleged assassins arrived in Salisbury on that fateful day until 11:48 - 2 and a half hours later.

Hitherto there has not been the slightest indication that the Skripal's may have returned home prior to being found slumped in the park, nor is there any available CCTV showing this. But maybe the Skripal's did invisibly return home during the available 1.15 hour gap after the two Russian assassin were able to smear the door handle with Novichok gel, re-package the bottle in a pristine cellophane perfume box and dump it inconspicuously and scarper off back to Moscow.

Were the authorities now to claim that unlikely and hugely unfortunate 1:15 hour "gap" was the period when the Skripal's were actually poisoned, they face the dicey problem of disassembling those many prior claims by experts that propped up this remarkable Humpty Dumpty story - namely, how the efficacy of the most deadly nerve agent in the world eroded as a consequence of time and weather --- in order to explain why none of the three Salisbury victims not only survived but have no lasting harmful physical effects whatsoever (unknown for the scant previous cases of Novichok exposure).

It seems to be a case of damned if you so and damned if you don't. That, of course, if a problem of an evolving narrative. Especially one that has had little cohesion from day one.

 

Annie Machon being an adult:

 

There's only two possibilities here -
1 - GRU agents were involved in assassinations without Putin's knowledge
2 - GRU agents were involved in assassinations with Putin's knowledge.

and one fact
1 - the targets of these assassinations are enemies of Putin.

Forget the conspiracy theories. Too many people are sympathizers for these
sorts of governments, or simply just hate their own society.

 

The pics are not necessarily from the same location.

Plus, it's quite clear that they were cropped.

Plus, there is no reason to believe that they weren't edited by Craig Murray.

 

You can tell by the photos that these are clearly Ukrainians paid to look like Russians in order to help the British stage a false flag attack.

 

No need for any sort of trial then if we're so certain.

 

And has anyone ever seen such clear footage from street cctv - and in full glorious technicolour? All cctv footage that I've ever seen is blurred and indistinct at best, and impossible to discern anyone or anything at worst. So this is how it works: two MI5 - or 6, it doesn't matter a tinker's cuss - dress up as Russian assassins; they're instructed to de-plane at Heathrow and to make their way to Salisbury, grinning in evil fashion (as Russian assassins do? lol) all the way. Cutting-edge camcorders have previously been strategically placed along the route, and record their progress to that fair city, and around the town. Now then, cutting to the chase . . . they do the deed by smearing/spraying/sprinkling (whatevah!) some nasty stuff, first on the Zizzi table the assassins know they'll sit at, and subsequently on a park bench, which they also somehow know the Skripals, during the course of the next hour or so, are going to sit on. While the Skripals are in Salisbury the assassins snatch the opportunity to repair to the Skripals house, probably by taxi, and put some nasty stuff on the front door handle. Returning to Salisbury they then take a hundred 'perfume dispensers' full of novichok (what else? ) out of a backpack and discard them in various locations around the city. Then they take the next train out of town and report back to Whitehall. Anyone got a a problem with that?



Left-hand one wearing brown shoes, right-hand one wearing a backpack



Right-hand one wearing trainers, right-hand one not wearing backpack.

How effing stupid does May think we are??

 

Yes, we know! So does yours.

 

Now there is a question. I doubt she thinks people are so stupid that they would not bother to check which day each photo was taken on before declaring that the differences in clothing were proof the government was lying. I mean, who could imagine that a person so mind numbingly stupid could exist when that information is so easy to locate?

What do you think? Is it possible an adult could be so stupid as to not bother to check out if the photos were taken on the same day before inferring some sort of conspiracy? How stupid would that person be? What do you reckon Cerb?

 

What, you believe they spent a week or two in Salisbury taking in the sights then? FFS - any fule no they'd have done the deed then get the **** out and back to Russia ( ) as fast as their little Russkie legs could carry them. Jeeeezus wept!

 

What I believe is of no consequence. The claim is that the men travelled to Salisbury one day for a 'dry run' and then the next day to spray the chemical agent. A perfectly sensible strategy. The claim is backed up by photographs of the men on different days wearing different clothes. The photos support what the government says rather than undermining it.

So, that leaves us with the question - how stupid would a person have to be not to bother checking if those photos were taken on different days? What do you think Cerb? Are we talking 'leaving your wallet on a train' stupid; 'giving money a Nigerian scammer' stupid; 'ranting on a street corner with no pants' stupid; or 'drooling down your shirt while flinging your own poo' stupid? I reckon its one of the last two, but I'm a generous soul.

 

I think that if anyone believes 'claims' from government sources - any government sources - these days, where official lying has become de rigueur, they must have a screw loose, or at best extremely gullible.

 

Oh dear. Dodging the issue I see. I guess it is the only real response you have. Just keep avoiding until a few more of the crazies show up to cause a distraction.

Two photos. Two men in different clothing. Two different days. The photo evidence proves that part of the government story is correct.

So, once again we are back to how stupid a person would have to be not to check if the photos were on different days. How stupid Cerb? How stupid would a person have to be not to read the account that said the men were in the UK for two days? How stupid would they be to have also and not checked which days the photos were taken on? Do you know anyone that stupid? I don't, and I'm including children under 10. Of course, I don't know anyone with brain damage or some mental condition. Maybe someone like that would be that stupid. What do you think Cerb? We talking about someone that stupid you think?

 

pffft, as if people could possible change clothes, next you'll be expecting everyone to believe that the two photos are from different cameras! Just because the angles of the lines on the walls are different along with the lense flare and the relative positions of the open gate arms.

 

Guardian have ran both photo's with timestamp
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...as-no-reason-to-investigate-uk-named-suspects

So they believe them to be authentic. Other news agencies have cropped out the timestamp which is obvious when you look them side by side.

 

Well before I can answer that I'll need to know how long they were in the country. Can you give me the answer? And please don't bring in the words 'It is claimed' again?

Actually I just re-read your post and see that as usual it's sprinkled with ad homs and sneering insults, so don't expect me to continue this discussion. You obviously have some kind of inferiority complex, and for whatever reason home in on me. Go and see someone who specialises in psychological disorders and see if they can straighten you out? Good luck with that, and have a nice day, or life, or whatever!

 

An enterprising investigator has now been able to identify the two Russians from the Gatport Airwick CCTV grab.


Case solved. Thanks to our clever boys and girls in HM security and intelligence community:

 

Yeah, I know. Only the most brain dead sheep would believe that two photos taken in two completely different places on two different days might show the people in them wearing different clothes. It takes true genius to assert that those two photos disprove the government claim that the men travelled on two different days. Genius I tell you!

 

Well that is an easy one. They were photographed arriving at Gatwick on Friday afternoon and photographed departing Heathrow Sunday evening. Slightly over two days. Remarkable what you can learn with a few keystrokes and the ability to read.

You were the one who brought up stupidity. If you don't want to discuss something then don't make an issue of it. I am merely asking you to help me make the sort of judgement you yourself brought into the discussion. If you are right, and the photos are from the same day, then there is no possible way I could be talking about you. Thus far you have refused to admit any error, so my questions remain purely theoretical.

 

More important, if you look at the bottom right hand side you'll see that the signs on the wall are actually different. So, different gates is the obvious response. Of course, for people who are professional apologists for Putin or similarly inclined trolls this is all proof of some conspiracy.

You would have to ask why a person who can't even see what is in a pretty simple photo should be treated as a trusted source, but the OP doesn't bother with such trifles.