The incredible new movement by the shooting survivors.

Well for those who do

The Soviets did infiltrate into government movements as they did the unions back in the 1930's, and the civil rights movement.

A true American Joe McCarthy tried to warn us.

 

No laws but bollards were put in place in public spaces to mitigate future mass killings. What policies have been put in place to mitigate future mass killing with guns in the US. All I see is people sticking their heads in the sand while shouting about freedoms and rights.

 

Are you sure you want to talk about statistic probabilities? Being a victim of an 'assault weapon' mass shooting is still less likely in the US or the UK than being a victim of a lightning strike.

 

His is a biased, tunnel vision perspective based on his own personal experience growing up. It isn't that simple.

 

So, box trucks where banned or restricted?

Just as I thought.

Putting bollards in place are akin to armed guards or armed faculty in schools.

 

Loosening gun regulations would result in more criminals with guns. It is different in the US because most serious criminals already have guns. I have not suggested that you adopt UK restrictions in the US so please don't try to tell me to adopt your crazy gun culture here.

 

for those against gun restrictions of some guns

are you also against the restrictions on automatics and machine gun type guns, should this ween of been allowed to by those?

I support everyone's right to own guns (even ex-felons that have done their time) to protect their homes and families, but I do think we can have reasonable restrictions on which guns people are allowed to own, such as machine guns, automatics, ect...

I also understand the fear that the government will try to go to far, this is as also true, so we have to be careful

 

Many of us lost loved one, as I lost a son years ago but very very few of us lost loved ones do to mass shootings.

I believe that some of those kids in Florida may be playing the victim firvafolecent attention. I would not deny that. Hell they have a great teacher in victim playing. Allied Donald J. Trump who tells us all of the time even at 2:17 AM that thise Democratic guys are going after hiim and his only friend is Putin....

 

Thank you for proving my point.

 

Says nothing about registering firearms.

 

That is true voting age is 18.. we may need to worry?

Or do we do an Alfred E. Newman !

WHAT, ME WORRY , ! ,

 

The left will always talk statistics when Muslims and illegals kill people.

 

You are a britt rather than an American?

If so this debate is totally none of your business

 

Misdemeanors? Get real. Seriously

As a card bearing member of the NRA I get all the newsletters and emails and much of it is propaganda. Some of it is very true though. One long used and sometimes inappropriately is the slippery slope theory.

That's why I don't support a ban on bump stocks. Knee jerk reaction of people that don't understand weapon modifications I am not interested in.

But... I do support raising the age of persons able to buy any fire arm to 21.

And.. I do support with certain criteria that greatly restricts via a database and background check any person young or old with a documented mental health issue like this shooter of being a danger to himself or others being banned from owning any firearm. Right now you have to be deemed mentally incompetent. And you just check a box.

Not acceptable.

Yet here we all sit debating guns again. This shooting was a complete societal, parental, health services and law enforcement break down. This kid wasn't just crazy he wanted to lash out. He wanted revenge. That's why he told one kid to run away. He was Autistic, bullied, grieving, and a trait many autistic kids have is the ability to focus. Obsessively. This one's obsession was guns. He had purchased ten

Now all of these rich white kids are on TV living their 15 minutes of fame encouraged by their parents and leftists, being humored by the right and I feel sad for them. It's a safety mechanism. Easier to blame guns than themselves or our societies failure to deal with people with serious mental health conditions.

That heaven on earth suburb didn't want to deal with Nikolas Cruz, they all just wanted him to go away. Or they treated him like a leper. For years. So an isolated, bullied, grieving and angry Autistic kid snapped? Shocker.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article200754714.html

 

They have no money, no political power not even being of voting age, their parents and other adults can vote but won't use it tying change in the laws for their votes or vote in another third party into a position to force change that way and are up against money and those with political power who will use it ... it may be nice but my guess it will amount to nothing in the long run. I for one see these children as naïve about the way the government and world works which is fine but no one in the end cares if seventeen of their classmates died who can do anything about it. Its happened before more than once and nothing. There could be some new laws but I suggest they focus on making the law enforcement act on information provided and to use their efforts to promote education of self-defense, observing their areas in life for dangers and to be pro-active that way.

 

I see people blaming Trump for this shooting but did anyone blame Clinton for Columbine?

 

Some people recognize that gun freedumb is the common denominator to all of the gun crimes committed in this country.

Others, like you, only care about gun crimes if they're committed by a person who can be assigned to one of your recognized out-groups, which include Muslims and illegals.

 

I didn't.

If you check back, you'll notice I edited my comment for clarity.

The point is that the left in the US are ignoring the contradiction in their claim that adopting UK or Australian style gun control is Constitutional. It isn't. Its only possible if we re-ammend the Second Amendment... which they know would make their proposition essentially impossible. They simply dont have the support to do it.

 

That's nice. Its still far far far more common in the US than in other developed countries

 

1. Everyone gets a say - but emotional outrage doesn't enhance the weight of ones position.

2. No it does, but the manner in which we do that can and the common proposals would do just that. Example: We could prevent rape by having all men castrated, but should we?

3. No that's just a bigoted opinion drilled into you by people who don't like it that the NRA donates to their opponents. Gun culture values responsibility and safety above all else. Its literally the #1 core value and mission statement. But if you're issuing threats you might keep in mind which side is more armed.

4. "This" meaning your current state of triggered outrage will most certainly go away. Your media masters have already moved on to more Russia Russia Russia stuff.

 

You only care about guns because the right protects the 2nd Amendment. If the right suddenly said we have to abolish the 2A then watch how quickly the left suddenly finds it to be important. The left needs to have things to point at and blame for all their problems, that's how the sheep are kept in line. Obama could have solved a lot of these vital liberal issues when he had a super majority, but he didn't. I suspect the left needs these issues otherwise they have nothing to blame on republicans - think about it, if the left solves the gun and DACA then what other issues will they have to rally their base around?

 

Not me; I'm not partisan. But yeah, if you want to own protecting an outdated constitutional amendment that is getting people killed by the thousands every year, be my guest.

 

My bad Thelma, you weren't the one who said it.

You were just one of the people who 'liked' it which is close enough.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-wing-wore-trump-hat.526326/#post-1068694632

Post #10.

 

Some people = Control freaks

 

It's not up to you so too bad