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The irony of the cry for less government

Discussion in 'Economics & Trade' started by Econ4Every1, Jul 5, 2017.

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Most of the time yes. You should try being liberal. If you love America.
     
    dairyair, Jul 23, 2017
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    What? Liberals are the plauge and problem with America, they offer no solutions just problems.

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  3. dairyair

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    The dude that suggested we have the girl scouts defend the USA doesn't consider himself a liberal. So, RWers don't offer any solutions either.
    See the health care debacle.
     
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    I don't get it, the Democratics call this a health care " crisis" and you want Republicans to fix it? I just say screw you all not my problem..

    I should I have to pay for your unhealthy and risky life style?


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    If liberals loved America they would love freedom from government the principal on which America was founded. Liberals love welfare not freedom so they are anti-American .
     
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    Right wingers want capitalist healthcare because it would lower prices approximately 80% and add 10 to 20 years to our life spans
     
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    Right wingers want vouchers so that our children can go to the school of their choice rather than to Liberal government schools that turn out about the dumbest kids in the civilized world.
     
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    I am not a D. I don't call it a crisis. But we need a system where all Americans can get affordable healthcare. Neither party is or has done anything to address the problem we have with our current system. IE, run by insurance companies who do it for profit. Not for the service of the humans needing medical attention.
    I certainly don't want R's to fix it. They are incapable of fixing it. They're basically clueless. The system ACA, is a R program developed back in the 1990s as an alternate to Hilarycare that she was pushing when hubby was prez.
    The solution is complex, and will require both parties to work together. But, the pharma and insurance companies have their fingers to deep into DC's behinds and the politician can't remove those fingers. For they fear losing the next election.

    But I see you are a typical RWer. I don't care about the rest of Americans. As long as I gots mine. BTW - I live a fairly healthy lifestyle. So stick you childish snowflake projections up your politicians backside.
     
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    Not going to talk about Sanders...
     
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    Helping all people of the USA is not hating America. You are backwards.
     
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    No one buys that lie. I don't even know why you spew that BS anymore.
     
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    Wow...your founding fathers should have bought some lottery tickets...
     
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    Care to quote from the Constitution where it says 'liberal government illegal'?
     
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    Private schools operate from a different criteria. If they are going to use my money to educate, they must adopt the public criteria and accept any and all students. Handicapped, LGBT, Transsexuals, special education needs, special needs, every type of student in the world must be accepted. No questions asked, if they want my money.
     
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    I will not discuss liberal and conservative or any other stereotypical names because it's 100% meaningless. Your world seems only to function with two choices; black and white...period. However there are myriad choices as we move forward and NONE of them have anything to do with liberal or conservative...
     
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    What about Paine, Adams, Washington, Jefferson?

    If you cannot quote from the Constitution to support your positions then they are incorrect...
     
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    Bill of Rights...
     
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    Please quote from the Constitution...
     
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    OMG! the federal govt has a few very carefully enumerated powers only. Do you know why??? This is the most rudimentary aspect of American govt. Also, this something you have learned 29 times now. Must we go for 30 too?
     
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    OMG! so the Constitution guarantees Social Security Medicare Medicaid?? Now you can see why they say liberalism is based in pure ignorance.
     
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    what do you want a quote on?? You want to know what the enumerated powers are?? There is a thing called google and you can look them up that way and thus get your first lesson in American history under your belt.
     
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    actually there are only 2 ideas that shape history: liberal and conservative or govt and freedom. They were first introduced by Plato and Aristotle and today are represented by Democrats and Republicans.
    Obviously if there were other ideas you would not be so afraid to present them rather than merely allude to their existence..
     
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    its not a lie to say that West Germany did far better than East Germany or that Florida does better than Cuba or that Hong Kong did far better than Red China. These are real world examples where we verified that capitalism is far better than socialism. That liberals are socialist can only only be testimony to their pure ignorance. Is any other logical explanation possible. Liberals are brainwashed and they have no idea what has been done to them.
     
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    Most all RWers see the world through binary eyes. It's why they can't come up with real world solutions. Where there can be 100s of ways to accomplish something. Instead of 2.
     
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    I think it is you brainwashed. No one here is calling for communist dictatorship.
    You don't even know political systems. But you just added a 3rd, so maybe you are not totally binary.

    BTW - those countries you are touting as great, have socialized healthcare, not free market. Thanks for showing those are better run healthcare systems than private markets that can't care for those that need it the most.
     
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