The January 6 Hearings are ONLY for Legislative Purposes!

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Ahhh where does it say to produce legislation

    SEC. 3. PURPOSES.

    Consistent with the functions described in section 4, the purposes of the Select Committee are the following:

    (1) To investigate and report upon the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the January 6, 2021, domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex (hereafter referred to as the “domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol”) and relating to the interference with the peaceful transfer of power, including facts and causes relating to the preparedness and response of the United States Capitol Police and other Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies in the National Capital Region and other instrumentalities of government, as well as the influencing factors that fomented such an attack on American representative democracy while engaged in a constitutional process.

    (2) To examine and evaluate evidence developed by relevant Federal, State, and local governmental agencies regarding the facts and circumstances surrounding the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol and targeted violence and domestic terrorism relevant to such terrorist attack.

    (3) To build upon the investigations of other entities and avoid unnecessary duplication of efforts by reviewing the investigations, findings, conclusions, and recommendations of other executive branch, congressional, or independent bipartisan or nonpartisan commission investigations into the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol, including investigations into influencing factors related to such attack.

    It clearly says they are to investigate the same things the criminal investigations are investigating.

    The only mention of legislation

    (d) No Markup Of Legislation Permitted.—The Select Committee may not hold a markup of legislation.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/503/text
     
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    (c) Corrective Measures Described.—The corrective measures described in this subsection may include changes in law, policy, procedures, rules, or regulations that could be taken—
    (2) to improve the security posture of the United States Capitol Complex while preserving accessibility of the Capitol Complex for all Americans; and

    (3) to strengthen the security and resilience of the United States and American democratic institutions against violence, domestic terrorism, and domestic violent extremism.
     
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    Yeah, it's been over 18 months why hasn't the DOJ charged him with this crime you allege? Perhaps because filing legal challenges to elections does not violate that statute?
     
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    In order to inform them on any legislation they may need to write to strengthen our democracy against future traitorous acts(see post #128) and or to pass what they learned along to both the American people (just like Watergate) and the DoJ.
     
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    If all he did was file legal challenges we wouldn't be where we are.
     
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    that should read post #128.
     
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    "May" but not listed under PURPOSE. And neither would require the testimony of officials at the White House or others associated with Trump or investigation into their communications or discussions. Both of those are solely about the actions of the Capitol Hill leadership. What does the testimony about the SUV have to do with the above? And I've heard NOTHING in testimony about either of those "corrective measures".
     
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    It's all I know he did, why hasn't the DOJ charged him under this statute it's been over 18 months.
     
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    Don't know what you're talking about, and don't care. This thread is about the Committee investigation. Which is NOT a criminal investigation.

    If you want to discuss any other topics, open your own thread. No need to derail this one.
     
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    ANY legislative purpose

    No idea what you're talking about (and you offer no quotes). But ANY regular patriotic citizen would want the DoJ to investigate crimes when there is this much evidence.
     
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    If you don’t think this committee is set up to do a criminal investigation, then you are sadly mistaken… you need to start another thread on why they are not looking into legislative issues like why the Congress overseers and the Capitol police allowed January 6 to happen when there was more than enough forewarning and guards to protect the Capitol… it was the legislative duty to do so and they failed… no excuses.
     
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    And don't miss the final act. Spoiler alert: That's when the orange clown gets to wear an orange jumpsuit for the rest of his life.

    It's hilarious! Don't miss it!
     
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    Sorry dude. I'm trying to elevate the level of the debates I open by not responding to dumb questions. Try again in somebody else's thread.
     
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    Doesn't matter what I think. The committee CAN'T do a criminal investigation.
     
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    What does the steering wheel incident have to do with legislative?
     
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    Congress can now consider enacting legislation to regulate the relationship between the President and the Secret Service. Maybe allowing the Secret Service to arrest the President if he/she assaults a SS agent. But definitely demanding that Secret Service agents remain completely apolitical, and that they be fired the second they show too much political affinity with the President.

    The problem here is that you obviously don't understand what "legislative purpose" MEANS. To anybody who does, the many many possibilities are endless.
     
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    Did you just post this for real... or are you joking?
     
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    Trump dead-enders, hysterical over all the revealing testimonies of so many conservative Republican officeholders and Trump regime insiders, have been whining that one witness testified as to what she was told as well as to what she had seen and heard first-hand.

    Much of her "hearsay" evidence can be confirmed or contested by Pasquale Cipollone today.

    Presumably, they welcome his coming clean in the interest of truth that transcends partisan interests.

    The committee has already cast Cipollone as one of the voices in the West Wing pushing Trump to do more to quell the violence unfolding at the Capitol.

    “Our evidence shows that Pat Cipollone and his office tried to do what was right. They tried to stop a number of President Trump’s plans for Jan. 6,” Vice Chair Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) said at an earlier hearing.

    Hutchinson fleshed out that picture.

    “Mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your effing hands,” Cipollone told Meadows.

    How did Trump respond to that counsel?

    Cipollone could expand the committee’s view into Trump’s inaction on Jan. 6 – a future hearing topic for the panel as it looks to review what happened in the White House that day.

    Testimony from Hutchinson indicates that Trump had little appetite for action that day.

    “He doesn’t want to do anything, Pat,” Meadows told Cipollone.

    Cipollone could also expand on testimony that Trump was unmoved by hearing that Vice President Mike Pence was in danger as rioters chanted for him to be hanged.

    “You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong,” Meadows said, according to Hutchinson.

     
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    But! Cipilone is now a closet RINO...
     
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    Joining the august hoard of Republicans who distinguished the Party from 1854 until 2016 when an invasive species of Donny-come-lately interlopers redefined the Party to reflect their weird worship.
     
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    Weird is way too polite! It's a destructive mental illness nailing about 25% of the population.
     
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    SEC. 3. PURPOSES.
    Consistent with the functions described in section 4, the purposes of the Select Committee are the following:

    This......(c) Corrective Measures Described.—The corrective measures described in this subsection may include changes in law, policy, procedures, rules, or regulations that could be taken—
    (2) to improve the security posture of the United States Capitol Complex while preserving accessibility of the Capitol Complex for all Americans; and

    (3) to strengthen the security and resilience of the United States and American democratic institutions against violence, domestic terrorism, and domestic violent extremism.

    ........
    .is in Sec. 4.
     
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    I deferred to the restrained characterization of the deranged cult of personality by a conservative Republican of integrity.

     
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    The wheels of justice move frustratingly slowly.
     

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