The Left Doesn't Hate the US; It Hates Us

OMG.

Unbelievably ignorant statement.

The Constitution was crafted to protect the people from an overpowering centralized government. That was its full intent.

What you are saying, is fine government the control to "help"people, beyond the allowable limits of the Constitution, and everything will be great.

Good lord. Take a history and civics class please.

 

Well, then stop.

 

What is to love ? Is it that rural and small town folk are less informed and less educated - not that they are simpletons but have very simplistic ideology ?

 

Oh, another one of these liberal elites. Probably with an advanced degree in philosophy.

I have lived in the cities, and I have lived in the country. When it comes to commonsense... the city folk are borderline mentally retarded comparatively.

But, you go in thinking your perspectives are superior, while the urban cities rot due to the massive intellect of arrogant liberals.

 

Thank you for proving my point with your hateful sweeping generalization.

 

I am not a liberal. Just because reality is reality - is no reason to make a bunch of flawed assumptions, build a big strawman and go into a demonization rant.

I make the exact same argument against those on the left = there is nothing to love about uber partisanship and group think .. regardless whether or not it is on the left or on the right.

Uber partisanship is a sign of stupidity regardless of whether it is on the left or on the right - do you not agree ?

 

Haha yes because the people of LA and NYC are so informed and educated...That’s it. So why do you all have so much more crime??

 

Who said the folks in LA and NYC were informed and educated ? and the crime comment is just dumb.

 

"Uber" hysterics are easier when reality is too painful. What we are watching is the deterioration of Republican support of Trump. Just watch Fox News for interesting/ critical assessment of Trump.

 

That commonsense is more prevalent in rural areas?

I agree that people in urban centers typically obtain a higher level of formal education, but I stand by the fact that they severely lack commonsense.

It is ironic that you elected to point out my percieve hatred while ignoring the poster I was responding to, who first criticized the rural folk.

Im sure partisanship had nothing to do with it right?

 

You said the folks in the rural areas were less educated and informed. So LA and NYC are big cities, two of the biggest...and if you are so educated why so much crime??

 

Sure. This is why I don't vote for either of given the opportunity. However, you would be hard pressed to prove that party lines dont intentionally hold opposing views purely to encourage that separation and reinforce their voting blocks.

 

You know - it is not the support for Trump that is the most problematic. We had an election in Alabama where the vast majority of Republicans voted for a quazi pedophile - Roy Moore. (I say quazi because 14-16 is not pedophilia) - a whole lot of these voters were the hardcore Fundamentalist "family values" crowd.

There is something wrong here. If Moore's antics are not enough to get one to not vote for someone - what is ?

If not sophisticated mind control techniques - such that folks are under the influence of some serious mind control - what else can account for such behavior ? Occam's razor.

Platitude speak. Do the people still actually believe this nonsense - regardless of how nonsensical it gets ? Obviously they do.

Red Establishment hates the founding principles. They hate limitations to Gov't power and essential liberty. They love big Gov't and big Gov't spending ... big deficits and big debt. They love lack of Gov't transparency and hate freedom of the press. They hate fair and free markets and love Oligopolies and skewing the rules of the game via regulation and tax law to keep the little guy from competing .. and corporations from manufacturing in the US.

All of the above is an anathema to what the right professes to believe in .. and an anathema to Republicanism. Yet - these folks keep on voting for these clowns.

The same is true on the Left - the main difference being that with the left the discrepancy is slightly less obvious.

 

Regardless of whether on is on the right or one the left - Uber Partisanship shows that one is less informed. You took this to mean less informed than in the cities .. while this is a statistical fact - that is not the point being made.

The point being made is that uber partisanship is a sign of not being educated or informed. If you looked at a map of high population density areas (coded in red and blue) you would have a similar looking map - predominantly blue. This is also a sign of uber partisanship - a sign of being less informed.

Crime has zero to do with the issue - Crime tends to concentrate in urban centers. I am not sure what the Red/Blue stats are among criminals but - it is probably not as partisan as what the map in question shows.

The overall point is that there is nothing to love about the Uber Partisanship in this nation. It is a sign of stupidity among the masses.

 

So people in rural areas are Uber partisan and people that live in cities aren’t is your argument? Oooook

 

Evangelicals drink Trump kool aid like it is communion wine. The most hypocritical/ anti-science nincompoops that only Republicans tolerate.

 

I have been asking that same question for years and watching. What I have noticed is that Red and Blue Establishment are essentially the same with respect to things that matter to the establishment.

The Establishment does not care that much about gay marriage, guns, immigration, abortion and so on. These and other "Hot Button Issues" serve to keep the people divided and partisan.

The Establishment cares about maintaining tax havens, bastardizing fair and free markets which keep the little guy from competing.
The Establishment cares that price fixing and anti competitive practices are allowed to continue.
The Establishment cares about making sure the media does not become fair and free.
The Establishment cares about decreasing the transparency in Gov't
The Establishment cares about going after essential liberty and maintaining big Gov't and big Gov't debt.
The Establishment cares about keeping the "fear factor" high to maintain contiued war spending .. and to justify continued war.

The Establishment is not some cabal or star chamber. There are various interests that conflict with each other on a regular basis. The conflicts are just a distraction. If one wants to understand the Establishment one needs to look at things on which they agree.

Imagine a ball. The laws of physics dictate that if you have equal forces on both sides the ball doesn't move. When these forces line up in one direction the ball moves in that direction.

If you want to figure out the direction we are heading - just look at the things on which the Establishment agrees.

 

By saying Antifa will not come to the Mid West to challenge you, is like acknowledging that you believe are FASCISTS!

 

I am now repeating myself. I stated that both people living in cities and people living in rural areas are Uber partisan .. and this is obvious from the electoral map.

 

In the part of Californication I live in we have much more in common with Nebraska, Idaho, Utah, Texas than we do with our instate coastal urban regions. That is why we are secessionists attempted to break away from Californication and create America’s 51st state, the State of Jefferson. We consider ourselves to be flyover Heartland America and we reject Californication and all it stands for. When other states and California clash on an issue we side with the other states against the Sacramento regime. We also rely on the Trump administration for some protection vs the overreaches of the regime. As to Nebraska, I lived there for 4 years and liked it a lot and still have Big Red fever.

 

Well glad you changed your tune from the ordinal post I quoted where you sai nothing about Uber partisan and said rural folks were less informed, less educated and simple

 

Both sides have similar issues - both engage in group think. Both are highly indoctrinated. The use of sophisticated mind control is more intense for those on the far right so it is true that they are more susceptible to avoidance of logic and reason ( to the point of claiming water is not wet). These folks are more used to this type of behavior so it comes more easy to them.

The techniques on the Left need to be more sophisticated and that they are. The Left has been on the forefront of indoctrination on the basis of Utilitarian ideology (what will increase happiness for the collective). I can get into this into more detail if you like. This method was so successful that the right has adopted it as well.

You get things that are almost as "anti" science and just as nincompoop on the basis of left indoctrination.

 

The part of California that I live in voted as strongly for Trump as the coastal city counties voted for Clinton. We are openly as red as any rural red state with some cities. When Barbara Boxer was our Senator she never came up here. We identify with the Heartland, not with the coastal urban parts of our state.

 

I did not change my tune - although I admit it could appear that way. From the map put up - it appears as if rural area's are more partisan = less educated less informed. That is what the map shows if one agrees that Uber Partisanship = less informed.

If you go back my original post I went out of my way to state that I was not saying these folks were "simpletons" and nor did I say what you infer I said - that these folks were less educated and less informed than city folks .. just that they were less educated and less informed.

Rather than change my tune .. I have doubled down on that tune. I did not need to use the term Uber Partisan - in the original post as this is implied by the "I love this Map" comment. What is inferred is that he loves the partisan nature of the map.

I merely asked a question "What is it that you love" - do you live that these people are Uber Partisan = less informed and less educated.