The most beautiful coat of arms that ever existed in the known history of mankind.

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  1. JakeJ

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    It looks stupid.

    At least the oath admits that citizens of the USSR were required to accept being peasants and workers. I suppose some people like the OPer in his message like seeing himself as a peasant as his highest goal in life. At least it is an easy to obtain goal requiring a person do absolutely nothing.
     
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    J. Bernal, British physicist and sociologist of science, public figure. Professor of Cambridge and London Universities, member of the Royal Society of London:
    "... Lenin belongs not only to the Soviet Union, but to all of humanity. Lenin is an inspiring example for us; we live and fight under the direct impact of his ideas.
    ... Lenin was the greatest among the greatest scientists of his time in the intellectual power of his thinking, in the breadth of his horizons. Where other great people saw this or that aspect of reality, he saw everything. He saw reality not as something static, but in motion; he understood the forces that determined this movement, and learned to manage them."

     
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    If you like the science fiction genre, read the novels of Stephen King. He is much more realistic than Solzhenitsyn.
     
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    Why is it not known how many died in the Gulag? It is very well known. For Khrushchev, a memorandum was prepared on the "victims of the GULag".

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    from 1921 to 1953 it was
    Executed 642,980 people
    sent to the settlement - 765,180 people
    Put in conclusion - 2,369,220 people.
    Total - 3,777,380

    Once again - from 1921 to 1953

    By the way, now in peacetime in the US there are more than 2 million prisoners. And do not forget about Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib

    Want to know how to live in Gulag? See the photo.
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    And this is a modern American prison. You can compare

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    Precisely the nonsense I would expect from someone who worships two of the 20th Century's most infamous mass murderers - Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin. :roll:
     
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    This is not a simple question. I will try to explain. The USSR collapsed because of internal contradictions. After Stalin's death, the Trotskyites, headed by Khrushchev, seized power in the USSR. Khrushchev, this scoundrel and a scoundrel. Khrushchev stopped the construction of a socialist state. And he began to build a nomenklatura society. This is such a political system, where the place of oligarchs is occupied by officials and party leadership.
    But because the basis (the basis of the economy) had a socialist-oriented way of life, and the political system was essentially the power of the nomenklatura, internal contradictions took place. Which ultimately led to the collapse of the economy and the collapse of the USSR.
    The socialist economic model has nothing to do with the disintegration of the USSR. Opposite the achievement of socialist economic management allowed the USSR to survive for a long time. And moreover, until now Russia relies on the economic achievements of socialism.

    The construction of a socialist society ended with the death of Stalin.
     
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    Look at your words -

    What you are saying is that the Soviet sytem is incapable of existing without Stalin or someone like him.
     
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    Stupid ideologies deserve a stupid logo. That one fits the bill.
     
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    V. Good, English Professor:
    ... It was in the summer of 1919 ... I looked at the person who was most talked about on earth, on the unknown genius of the revolution that shocked the world ... During my life I met in different countries with people who were called great. I would not say one thing about anything that I can say with complete confidence about Lenin - He was a man. "Of all people, I can not see such a person" (Shakespeare)

     
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    LOL - The socialist economic model had everything to do with the disintegration of the USSR.

    In 1922, economist Ludwig von Mises predicted the inevitable collapse of the USSR in Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis precisely because the Soviet Union embraced the socialist economic model. Clearly, von Mises was a lot smarter than Lenin, Stalin and that pseudo-intellectual charlatan Karl Marx.
     
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    I thought these guys were extinct, like their philosophy. Communism sounded all sweet and fluffy until someone woke up and said, "Hey, what about personal freedom and liberty"? Things went downhill after that. Debating this is like debating the merits of a flat earth with road kill.
     
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    Oh, delightful - an Appeal to Authority Fallacy. :lol:

    "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." (Shakespeare)

    I will say this about Lenin - the one and only thing he was good at was killing people. In the pantheon of the 20th Century's most infamous mass murderers he had few rivals - Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot.
     
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    You write nonsense. And you understand this well. Demagoguery is not interesting
     
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    Opinion of "insects" is not interested. When you reach a level of at least 1% of Lenin's level, we can talk with you about different political and economic forms.
     
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    Lenin's one world system was as evil as the one world system that George Soros' and Washington want's to impose on the world today. At the time Lenin took over, Russia had the fastest growing economy in the world, and Nicholas II had plans made up to distribute the imperial wealth to the peasants. Lenin and his Bolsheviks had to work fast to make sure that wouldn't happen, and the war facilitated them.

    Under Tsar Nicholas II Russia had a free press, and it was used for propaganda and like today the lies were non ending. Lenin told the Russian people that he was going to hand over the wealth to them, and then gave them nothing. He spread rumors that the Tsar was going to distribute the property of the nobility to the peasants so they would turn against him, when he knew it was the Tsar's own property that Nicholas planned on distributing.

    Records now reveal that Lenin was the one who ordered the execution of the Tsar and his family. Two million people ran out of Russia, and with them came stories of the ongoing atrocities. The communist international system, and the loss of people's ethnic and religious identity brought about nationalism and a fascist system to counter it. So we had one evil system begetting another evil system, and it all came about through Lenin.

    Since we can only judge a tree by the fruit it bears, we can say that Lenin's direct fruits of the revolution were 20 million deaths which included the destruction of 20 thousand churches, and the deaths of a quarter of a million priests, bishops and monks - making it the greatest martyrdom of Christians since the Roman Empire.

    Adding to the direct deaths, we have to include the indirect ones from WWII since the formation of the Nazi and Fascist parties was to counter the internationalist system of the Soviet Union. We also have tens of millions of deaths from the spread of
    communism to other parts of the world such a China, etc., so what we can say with certainty is that Lenin and the Bolshevik revolution was the cause of the greatest evils that had ever occurred in the world, and exceeded by far the Mongol invasions, Islam, etc..
     
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    Here, have a ticket for a free half a helicopter ride :)
     
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    He can tell this to the Chinese ....Socialism is the first world economy in terms of purchasing power parity. The growth of the economy that America has never had
     
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    It is not true. Read historical documents, but not propaganda literature.
     
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    It's amazing. You are talking about "personal freedom". You who live in the US, where the largest number of prisoners in the history of mankind. Even in Nazi Germany there were fewer prisoners. What kind of "personal freedom" can be said after the adoption of the "patriotic act"? Do not make for people funny. What kind of freedom can one say if the US officially allows torture?...I hope you will find photos of "freedom" in Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib on your own?
     
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    The Most "Beautiful Coat of Arms in History"? :roflol:

    I would give it a (Charitable) 6 (on a 1-10 scale).

    Lenin the "Greatest Mind"? :roflol:

    Not even close.

    Next. :bored:
     
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    I see this slop of Communist propaganda was dumped into the sewers of 'opinion & beliefs'....right where it belongs!
     
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    Most Americans would like to see a return to the soviet union. It was an economic disaster. We like to see our enemies fail. The logo is tacky and old fashioned.
     
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    I'm a much smarter and better person than Lenin and the moral and intellectual pygmies who idolize him. You and I could debate socialism vs. free enterprise but it would be pointless - that's an argument that you and your comrades in the Cult of Fiasco have already lost.
     
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