The Muslims will stop trying to kill us when ______

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You and I were not there, that is correct, so because Allah is not real he won't clear this up for us.....but we can both agree that if, repeat if, we went back in a time machine, and saw Mohammad having sex with her at NINE (if, repeat if that was true), that you and I would both condemn Muslims today for believing that he (hypothetically in this example) was the "Perfect Man", correct? If it were true I'd condemn Muslims for believing in a pedophile, would you?

    PS I you do get a time machine I'll give you some money to buy me some Apple stock. :)
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure why not
     
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    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    You would NOT do that because you can't even condemn Muslims for believing that Mohammad was the "perfect man" and MOHAMMAD BEST HIS WIFE. Stop lying.

    Sahih Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

    Sahih Bukhari (72:715) - "Aisha said, 'I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women'" Muhammad's own wife complained of the abuse that the women of her religion suffered relative to other women.

    Sahih Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

    Sahih Muslim (9:3506) - Muhammad's fathers-in-law (Abu Bakr and Umar) amused him by slapping his wives (Aisha and Hafsa) for annoying him. According to the Hadith, the prophet of Islam laughed upon hearing this.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i would totally use deadly force to defend an innocent victim.

    do not call me a "liar" again
     
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    "why not"?.....Ronstar, can you condemn the Holocaus"t...Ronstar: "sure why not".
    You have a hard time condemning barbaric behavior. You can't even condemn Jesus for (allegedly) meeting with Satan (in the Bible) and not trying to arrest Satan.....any sane person would try to arrest or kill Satan, or at least express wishes to that effect. But Christian defend Jesus for this. They don't care about what's best for the world.
     
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    You passed on condemning Muslims even though they believe a wife-beater is the "perfect man"....but I'm getting USED to your inability to call out evil when you see it.
     
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    Then I guess Mohammad's own WIFE sought to "attack and defame Islam and Muslims":
    "The Messenger of God consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old. ..." - poor little Aisha, from Al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p. 131
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what's it like riding a 20' high horse?

    LOL!!!!
     
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    In Islam the world is split into muslims and everyone else. They believe everyone should be a muslim, but they will tolerate non-muslims until they can force them to be either muslim or dead.
     
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    You are correct - yes, "dhimmi" status.
    In Islam, a non-Muslim is worth LESS than a Muslim: "The value of the blood-money at the time of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) was eight hundred dinars or eight thousand dirhams, and the blood-money for the people of the Book was half of that for Muslims." https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Dhimmitude
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and apparently according to you, Secular Humanists see Theists as "untermenschen".
     
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    I can't help it if Modern Secular Humanism is more ethical than religions are. I won't by shy about telling people that truth. I make no apologies. Christians, for example, are so immoral that they can't even, when asked, condemn God/Jesus for approving of his barbaric "flood" - which was a genocide of virtually all our fellow humans, but of even virtually all (innocent) animals, including baby animals, too. This genocide is estimated to have killed more than even Hitler's genocide. I condemn genocide, Christians/Jews don't - so of course we are more ethical than they are - period.
     
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    We are better than Muslims because we don't believe that there should be any difference in legal value between different people, just based on religion. Can you condemn Muslims for approving of Mohammad's legal approval of treating Muslims better than, say your relatives who are Jews, ronstar?
     
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    What's it like not summoning the courage to condemn Muslims -here I'm talking about the Muslims who do happen to believe that Mohammad had sex with a 9 year-old?

    LOL!!!!
     
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    So if you had a time machine and you were back in Mohammad's time and you saw him hitting Aisha you'd shoot Mohammad (if you had a gun), right Ronstar?
     
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    if he was having sex with a clearly pre-pubescent child?

    sure, I'd put holes in his head.

    so what's your ****ing point?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    stop trolling and flamebaiting.

    otherwise I will put you on Ignore.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    can you show the courage to attack Islam and not Muslims?
     
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    My understanding is that Muhammad was a rapist and a murderer.
     
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    C) They will never stop trying to kill, until all the infidels are dead
     
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    Now hold on there - if all us infidels are dead then who is left to pay the Jizya (the discriminatory religious-based tax meant to punish non-Muslims for not following god's path)?
     
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    so what's your "Final Solution" to the Muslim Problem?
     
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    Well, unlike the genocidal Jesus, I myself don't want Muslims barbarically tortured forever (just for not "believing" in one particular unproven invisible man in the sky) in Jesus' Auschwitz ("hell" - that god/Jesus could end with a snap of their all-powerful fingers, allegedly) - so I'm a better person than god/Jesus/Christians are, obviously. I'd let them into heave and avoid hell, at least the ethical ones (Osama might not do so well in my scheme, however.)
    In THIS life I'm more compassionate than most because I desire full Muslim immigration, because I love them. Ultimately, discrediting the Islamic texts will lead to apostasy and much-reduced zeal for Islam for those who choose to remain Muslim. Kinda like the belief in ZEUS, today. Modern Secular Humanism will rise to take religion's place, over the decades.
     
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    only a hitler wannabe would ask such an insane question.

    America should put Americans first, and only allow beneficial immigration to our country.
     

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