The "my body my choice" argument

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU: """""women's rights crap"""""


    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all.

    Sanger hated abortion.....she pushed birth control for ALL women.....not just white women...




    No, you do.....Sanger hated abortion that's why she pushed birth control...DUH!

    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all there is to say about you..



    :roflol::roflol:


    Quit trying to dodge the FACT that you called women's rights" crap ":roflol:....and exposed your agenda...


    YES, abortion , and the banning of abortion , has , OF COURSE, to do with women's rights....who TF else has abortions??????>>

    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all there is to say about you..



    :roflol::roflol:


    Quit trying to dodge the FACT that you called women's rights" crap ":roflol:...
     
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    There shouldn't be right specifically for women it should be treated equal and have the same rights as everyone else.
     
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    For the record I wasn't calling women's rights crap I was calling genocide crap. Because it's crap I don't adhere to the religious belief that this is part of women's rights. I know too many pro-life women to believe this is part of women's rights. It was actually pro-life women that helped me understand the pro-life side of things.

    So if you cared about women's rights instead of just using it to excuse your evil thoughts then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
     
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    What are rights and why do they pertain to fetuses?
     
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    This is actually correct. There are only Individual Rights and the one individual that abortion concerns is the unwillingly pregnant woman. She has the right to terminate her pregnancy because, as an individual, she has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    But, since it is only women who get pregnant, abortion is only about women.
     
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    Nah.. The majority of the court will follow the existing precedent that federal agencies don't and shouldn't write policy. If Xiden wanted mandates, he should have nudged Chucky and Nancy to create legislation. Why didn't he? Because no one is going to actually go on record as having voted for this tyranny. Shame you say? Laughable.

    OSHA does have a function. It just isn't dictating what people accept in their personal health care.
     
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    If you don't know what rights are then you don't believe women have the right to abortion because you don't know what that means.
     
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    I am asking you to define the terms that you are using.
     
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    the ACT which leads to pregnancy is really quite deliberate so unless it's rape there's no such thing as unwilling pregnancy.

    I refuse to accept your misogyny
    but the baby doesn't because it doesn't? Why?
    I don't think so. I think many women who have abortions feel like they're forced to because a man is either being irresponsible or pressuring her to do it.

    In fact just like male feminists come off as sexual predators Men who vehemently support abortion come office people who want to be able to bully a woman killing their baby so they don't have to pay child support. And I'm convinced that's the only reason any man supports it because they want to be able to get out of their mistake. I think this is far more about men than people like to admit.

    I never considered the argument at all pro-life or pro-choice until I met some pro-life women. And this happens to be the dirty little secret nobody wants us to think about that women a lot of women maybe even almost half of them are pro-life.
     
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    Common usage all terms always from now until perpetuity unless I specify otherwise.

    So you don't ever have to ask me this question again unless there's some sort of ambiguity.
     
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    Of course there is. A woman who is pregnant when she does not want to be pregnant is unwillingly pregnant.

    The main goal and purpose of "the act" is pleasure and happiness. You do not even need "the act" to make a woman pregnant.

    My misogyny?

    What do you mean by that?

    You think?

    You think?

    You mean you did not come to the conclusion yourself and just blindly accepted their opinion? How seconded-handed of you.
     
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    well you can insist on that all you want. But in order to become pregnant you have to quite deliberately perform an act and if you don't want to be there's ways to perform this act where the risk is and minimized.

    So I don't buy your claim of the existence of unwillingly pregnant not a thing.
    no it most certainly is procreation. You can gain pleasure by interacting with another person in a sexual manner that holds zero risk of pregnancy.

    yes

    I mean what I stated. What are you having trouble with?

    no I know. The only reason men support this is because they want to be able to bully a woman into doing it.

    If that's what you consider accepting input from people other than yourself then I'm not going to really argue with this.

    I don't value discussion with narcissism and petulant refusal to grow. But if you have everything figured out and you came to all these inclusions all by yourself with no input from anybody else why are you so terrible at arguing your point.

    I doubt your claim about the existence of unwillingly pregnant and you just further insist that that's a thing. You're not arguing you're not making a point you're just being belligerent. If these are the conclusions you came to by yourself maybe you need to think about why you think such things that are so indefensible.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU: """""women's rights crap"""""


    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all.

    Sanger hated abortion.....she pushed birth control for ALL women.....not just white women...




    No, you do.....Sanger hated abortion that's why she pushed birth control...DUH!

    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all there is to say about you..



    :roflol::roflol:


    Quit trying to dodge the FACT that you called women's rights" crap ":roflol:....and exposed your agenda...




    YES, abortion , and the banning of abortion , has , OF COURSE, to do with women's rights....who TF else has abortions??????>>

    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all there is to say about you..



    :roflol::roflol:


    Quit trying to dodge the FACT that you called women's rights" crap ":roflol:...


    There is no right specifically for women....everyone has the right to bodily autonomy.......and you are correct, women should have the same rights as everyone else, the right to bodily autonomy.....it shouldn't be taken away by the mentally ill people who don't think women should have equal rights..
     
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    You don't have the right to body autonomy over someone else's body.
     
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    :) UH,NO, this is YOU from post # 28 : """ you've been brainwashed into believing this is some sort of women's rights crap""""



    Women's rights are religious !!!? No, they aren't.

    What tf!


    What a strange thing to post..... why would Anti-Choice women have an accurate say in women's rights? They don't want women to have rights...




    The only evil I see is evil people trying to take away women's right to their own body....the depths of evil..
     
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    Not their own body.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YOU: """""women's rights crap"""""


    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all.

    Sanger hated abortion.....she pushed birth control for ALL women.....not just white women...




    No, you do.....Sanger hated abortion that's why she pushed birth control...DUH!

    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all there is to say about you..



    :roflol::roflol:


    Quit trying to dodge the FACT that you called women's rights" crap ":roflol:....and exposed your agenda...




    YES, abortion , and the banning of abortion , has , OF COURSE, to do with women's rights....who TF else has abortions??????>>

    Calling women's rights "crap" says it all there is to say about you..



    :roflol::roflol:


    Quit trying to dodge the FACT that you called women's rights" crap ":roflol:...

    There is no right specifically for women....everyone has the right to bodily autonomy.......and you are correct, women should have the same rights as everyone else, the right to bodily autonomy.....it shouldn't be taken away by the mentally ill people who don't think women should have equal rights..



    Then why do you want to give fetuses the right to body autonomy over someone's else's body ?????

    Why do you want the government to take away the right to bodily autonomy ?



    There is no right specifically for women....everyone has the right to bodily autonomy.......and you are correct, women should have the same rights as everyone else, the right to bodily autonomy.....it shouldn't be taken away by the mentally ill people who don't think women should have equal rights..
     
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    :) UH,NO, this is YOU from post # 28 : """ you've been brainwashed into believing this is some sort of women's rights crap""""

    Women's rights are religious !!!? No, they aren't.

    What tf!

    What a strange thing to post..... why would Anti-Choice women have an accurate say in women's rights? They don't want women to have rights...


    The only evil I see is evil people trying to take away women's right to their own body....the depths of evil..


    What does that mean ????


    See, this is where I show that you were NOT referring to genocide as you claimed but really were referring to women's rights and how you think they're crap :
    this is YOU from post # 28 : """ you've been brainwashed into believing this is some sort of women's rights crap""""
     

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    What?
    I don't I just don't think someone has the right to autonomy over someone else's body
     
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    that it's not their body.
     
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    It makes wonder what kind of intimidation tactics you were victim of to kerp referring to sex as "an act". Are you too afraid to spell it?

    Having sex is not a crime that a woman should be punished for. How she is doing it is none of your darn business. Sure, one may argue that the moral thing to do when does not want to be is to use protection and I absolutely agree, but immoral and illegal are not the same.

    Then what is a woman who is pregnant without wanting to be pregnant? A sinner? A slut? A criminal?

    That is just flat out false. Only animals have sex solely for reproductive purposes. Human beings engage in "the act" first and foremost for pleasure.

    The only reason you want the government to ban abortion is because you are too scared to cut up the woman and take out the fetus to save it yourself. I say, you take the knife and do it and then bring it home and raise it.

    It is ignorant and evadive to suggest that there is no such thing as an unwanted pregnancy. There is such a thing in reality as women who are pregnant without wanting to be pregnant. This is an observable fact and a concept that is properly defined as "unwillingly pregnant". Tjere really can be no discussion about this and it is impossible to argue with someone who does not agree with the facts of reality as the basis of the conversation.
     
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    That is Pro-Choice :)
     
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    WHOSE "own body" ?

    Why can't you address entire posts but ony have obscure one liners???????
     
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    sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex.

    Happy?
    but it is for a man.

    irresponsible naive foolish.

    no on both counts. Animals also do it for dominance. And it's pleasurable instinctually because the species must continue. Heather how do you know other animals don't take pleasure in it?

    so the only reason I want the government to stop genocide is because I'm too afraid to perform surgery which I'm not qualified to do?

    I suppose this made sense to you when you typed it but it's probably one of the most deranged things I've seen you type.

    I would be too afraid to perform surgery on a person I will admit that I am not a surgeon frankly I'm a little squeamish at the sight of blood.

    what an i evading? Your insistence? Quit demanding that I accept it and show me.
    then stop insisting and making an argument for it.

    There's nothing to evade you're just being belligerent.
    You're not arguing you're just insisting in demanding that I accept whatever nonsense you insist on.

    I'm not evading I'm adjusting you directly I reject your insistence.

    People insist on all sorts of crazy crap. I don't have to accept it as fact you have to prove it if you want it to be a fact in this discussion I'm open minded. But you have to do better than just stamping your feet and throwing a little fit.
     
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    whose own body what?
    most of your post is just trash, or crap I've addressed and you just posted over and over and over again.

    Look at the mess you make of your posts nobody else does that.
     

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