The myth about pedophile priests

I guess I got the message now. You are calling me a kind of devil, isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcIMvliWM2I

 

You are asking an individual who seems to have suffered molestation at the hands of a priest to name the perpetrator of this crime. Not only does this carry possible legal ramifications in this country, but this may be a very disturbing situation for the victim.
Added to this would be the implication in your request that the claim is false and needs to be verified somehow by naming the person that committed the act.....this is beyond rude, and borders on cruel.

 

Exactly - and the lady was 11 years old when this had happened 51 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Meu_uczBEqM

 

Are you kidding?

Why would I give you that information, even If I had it!

I am almost 63 years old, and it happened to me when I was 11. The pedophile priest ( and obviously I didn't have a name for what he did to me or what he was at that time) was probably between 55 and 65 years old at that time.

All I know is that he wasn't Moses, so I would imagine he died quite a few years ago.

You really ask the weirdest questions! And, since you seem to be able to read French, you might be interested in knowing that this priest was a French speaking Belgian, who had been " assigned " (one would wonder why!) to a large hospital in the town where I lived. I was not only an 11 year old child, I was also a patient in that hospital, and the molestation occured in the "sacristie" of that hospital chapel.


I strongly resent your insinuations that I would make up such a story. . .but since at this stage it is a moot point, I will choose to laughh at your insensivity.

 

The majority of criminal priests certainly like to abuse little boys, but they try all sorts, I suppose. The celibacy nonsense encourages immature sickoes, whom the bishops protect. What's complex about this? Just listen to the ranting wickedness who ignore what Jesus said about children.

 

Stick it where the sun don't shine? Does that translate the sicko type language barrier.

 

¿? It seems to me you like to say to me I should not try to communicate with people of the english speaking world because they are all sick. What's your own nationality and/or mothertongue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBxjUkOlggY

 

Informed people have figured out by now that the pedophile/Catholic meme is just an expression of the bigotry of the media bosses when it isn’t a tool of greedy lawyers.

Look at what the obsessive attacks on Catholics by the media bosses have accomplished.

Quote: a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests “frequently” abused children.

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Now let’s look at the reality. Catholic priests are no more likely to molest than any other group of men.

1) Quote from Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children: "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else,"

2) Quote: it still amounts to less than 2 percent — comparable to the rate among married men

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3) According to a study by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, the rate of abuse by priests “is roughly consistent with data on many similar professions.”

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REPORTED abuse cases. the church managed to hide many of them so who knows how many there were

 

Even if that were true (which is still open to debate), what other group of men of similar size has the safety net of a systematic cover up to hide their crimes?

 

There are probably many 'closet' homosexuals in the Catholic priesthood as, being outwardly homosexual was not acceptable.

 

So this happened in 1960-1962 in the United States - no stop - : It happened in Belgium in a hospital - and this priest was born about 1890/5-1900/5 also in Belgium ... it would be a wonder if he would not be dead - nevertheless I fear no one has any informations about this man - except you. It could be good to inform this hospital and/or the catholic church in Belgium.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXDQCMZB3g

 

What I can't figure out is why you keep promoting that youtube video.

Do you have anything to contribute other than trying to promote that video?

 

I thought I would bump my response, because it is important to realize that it isn't the percentage of priests perpetrating these crimes that is the issue. It is the larger systemic crime the church is committing against its congregants and against their own doctrine in regards to the God they profess to serve.
The church has become the criminal and the people demand and deserve better.

 

Something to consider:

Most males experience sex with a woman.
Few males who experience this decide to avoid it in the future.
Those few who do decide such a thing, likely did not enjoy the experience.
From experience it is my opinion that sex is a requirement for true happiness.
It is possible many of the priests fulfill themselves through worship and service to their God.
Those in the Priesthood are representatives of that god, and are given a trust few others achieve.

For them to prey on children is both understandable and repulsive.
For the Church to turn a blind eye is to be a party to this terrible act...and in my opinion removes any respect from them and the God they serve.

 

No informed people realize that the Catholic Church has a problem. It is not simply that there have been Catholic Priests who are pedophiles- the scandal is that the Church has actively hidden this problem, and often moved priests out of a community into another community where they are still in contact with children.

The church should have reported the priests to the police. The church all too often didn't. I am not an opponent of the Catholic Church, but if you want to know where the revulsion comes from- it is the protection of pedophiles by the church.

Your quote is from a Catholic 'fact sheet'- one of the ones I find appalling is this claim:

Female clergy would help solve the problem.

There's simply no logical connection between the deviant behavior of a tiny minority of male clergy and the inclusion of women in their ranks. While it's true that most statistics on child molestation show that men are more likely to abuse children, the fact is that some women are also child molesters.

That statement was certainly written by no Jesuit. Men make up 95% or more of all child molesters. The claim that having female priests would not change the rate of molestation is just a lie. A flat out lie by the Catholic Church. If the priesthood was for instance- 50% females- the rate of molestation would be reduced- logically- by at least 48%.

But the Church says that is not significant. Again- I don't have anything against the Catholic Church- but this out and out lie to protect the Church irritates me.

 

You believe people become gay because they had a disagreeable sexual experience with a woman?
LOL!

 

I suppose that if you had issues with English, selective reading disorder, or a predisposition to insert words into the mouths of others you might gleen such a thing from my comment. Other than those however...the remaining possibilities are less than flattering, so I will simplify for you.

It may be those who decide to live without sex on purpose are ignoring the natural human state, and thus have issues.

~OR~.....Dem fellas aint rite in the head, onna counta they aint gettin' none from da fillies so dey gots ta play wit da lil' ones cause days more easier.

 

But you know these hidden cases exist because you have special magical super powers of detection?

Wow you are a dunce!

 

youre suggesting the church DIDNT cover up many of the abuses?? hahahaahahahahahahaha

 

You may be surprised to find we are essentially on the same side of this issue.
But that bit (that you did include in your post) about an unsatisfactory introduction to hetero sex leads some to the gay life was so hysterical I couldn't just let it pass by.
The best thing to do is simply admit you said something that was truly silly and move on.

 

So you agree the constant association of priests with pedophilia is rank bigotry by the media bosses?

Abuse and cover-up by other groups:

Exclusive: Chabad's Coverup Of Child Sex Abuse

Coverups Have Made Sex Abuse More Common In Haredi Community, Rabbi Says

Top Rabbi Says Don't Report Suspected Pedophiles To Police

Quote: An extensive 2007 investigation by the Associated Press showed that sexual abuse of children in U.S. schools was "widespread," and most of it was never reported or punished.

LINK

Teachers Vs. Priests Unequal Treatment In the Media?

The obsessive focus on Catholics is of course bigotry.

 

Again, had I stated as much I would be incorrect. But as this was my comment:

Please note there is absolutely no mention of homosexuality anywhere in the post, nor was it implied in any way. Please note as well the plentiful use of clarification as to the non absolute nature of what is obviously My Opinion in what was meant to be a consideration piece.

My somewhat sarcastic reply to you was entirely in rebuttal to the misinterpretation you claimed, and continue to put forth.

The best thing to do is simply admit you said something that was truly silly and move on.

 

So you support the coverup and consider it the standard way of coping with sexual abuse? Is that your point?

Raise the bar a little higher for the church. They need to lead in this, not legitamize the sins of the pack.

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So you support the coverup and consider it the standard way of coping with sexual abuse? Is that your point?

Raise the bar a little higher for the church. They need to lead in this, not legitamize the sins of the pack.

 

I think it was implied, but ok.
Having a bad sexual experience with a woman doesn't make them pedophiles either. Just as silly.
I'm moving on.