The myth about pedophile priests

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thus was I quite clear that this was my opinion, and merely something to consider. I am aware we hold much the same view on this issue and meant no affront, I did however feel the need to address the words put in my mouth.

    Perhaps the point was less than clear....as it was no so much a bad experience, as eliminating the experience voluntarily.

    Anyway....as you wish....Moving on.
     
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    Perhaps that is true.

    However, the coverup by the Church of child abuse by Priests is something far, far worse.
     
  3. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have as much problem with reading comprehension than you do with English vocabulary?

    I did already say this in my previous post:
     
  4. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with everything you said. In addition, I believe (again, by experience!) that a child molested by a PRIEST is less likely to report it (and even if he reports it to his parents, they may be less likely to report it ) because of the "aura" and "special standing" priesthood has among Catholic families.

    A child having to endure molestation is horrible, and the feeling of fear and shame so deep, that it is hard enough for a child to report ANY child molester, but even more when it is a priest or a pastor. So I believe that, in the past especially, but even still today, child molestation by priests (and pastors) have been greatly under reported.

    This, hopefully, is changing, now that pedophilia among priests has been exposed and that enough information has come out that every child KNOWS that Priests are not immune to being bad, terribly bad people. At least, that is ONE good thing that will have come out of blowing the cases of pedophilia fully open!
     
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    I agree- I personally hope that the church stops listening to lawyers and those concerned about the reputation of the Church and turns completely to transparency- open the books to law enforcement on all complaints of sex abuse regarding any living priests- let law enforcment investigate- rather than the church.

    I hope the church roots this evil out and becomes a better church because of it.

    I don't know any women who have admitted to me to having been molested by their priests- but I know women who were abused- so thank you for speaking up.
     
  6. Sadanie

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    I know they exist. . .because I experienced it and, as a child, I was too confused, ashamed, and frightened to report it, even to my parents.

    Pedophiles pray on the weakest. I was shy and mostly silent. I was recovering from a surgery.

    I do not obviously have reliable statistical data. . .I don't believe anyone really does!

    But I would venture a guess that for every case of molestation of a child that comes to light, there are at least 2 that are not reported by the parents, and at least 5 that are not reported by the child, even to their parents.

    If you have data to contradict that, I would be interested in seeing it. But please do not believe that data coming from any Catholic source would be taken seriously!

    Maybe in 5 years, maybe in 10 years. . . but not today!
     
  7. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and one must remember that priests, as do sports coach, have MORE access to a great number of children, in a capacity of POWER, than most lay men.

    And, since they can be "Moved" to other churches, other schools, other areas. . . they can continue their search for victims.

    I wonder if there is a study that relates, not just the number of pedophiles (priests or otherwise), but also the number of victims each of those pedophile have abused. I believe that this kind of statistics would show a much greater number of victims from people in authority (like priests, coaches, etc. . .) than in the normal population.
     
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    Or maybe, just MAYYYYYBEEEE, a reflection of the fact that Jews constitute less than 1% of the population of the 'Western World' while the Catholic Church is the leadership body for over 30%?
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Considering the topic is concerning pedophilia and priests, there seems no one else to talk about....How is this Bigoted?
     
  10. dairyair

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    Or because they were gay to begin with they had a disagreeable sexual experience with a woman. And did not want to admit it.
     
  11. Anobsitar

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    I would say specially the video your refer to is one of the most unpromotable ever existed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEkdA2Whvm8
     
  12. Anobsitar

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    And what exactly was it what I made wrong so you have to feel bad now?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d215_VKedCc
     
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    I'd say more than 2, depending perhaps on how abuse is defined. I heard things from Roman Catholic friends when I was young that surprised me, as I did about some of our teachers, at whom we could at least shout, 'Backs to the wall, lads!' contemptuously when they came in, though no official complaints were raised by anyone: what was the point? Deepest sympathies Sadanie. We can only hope that the Future is another country and that they will do things differently there.
     
  14. Anobsitar

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    Good joke, Englishman

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HuzCKVFV78
     
  15. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This looks like self-promotion to me. . . A clever way to spam!
     
  16. Sadanie

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    I don't feel bad now. . . In fact, I feel kind of sorry for you, because you obviously have an agenda that includes trying to white wash pedophile priests by trying to blame the victim or by trying to make believe that victims are in fact lying.

    Not very sensitive or smart.

    And in the mean time, you are spamming your silly video!
     
  17. Anobsitar

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    Thanks for the confirmation that you have nothing to contribute other than promoting your video.
     
  19. Anobsitar

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    Explain me something else: Why is the english speaking world so unbelievable agressive?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WBmqz_qh_o
     
  20. Prof_Sarcastic

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    This from the guy who spent the last few pages prodding a victim of sexual abuse? Seriously?
     
  21. Anansi the Spider

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    But the many charitable activities of the Church don't receive much media attention.

    And crimes against Jewish people receive a lot of media attention.

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    I think the media bosses do tend to attack many non-Jewish ethnic groups: African Americans, Catholics, Hispanics, Protestants, white people in general, Arabs, Iranians, Muslims in general, Asians. The media bosses also seek to set these groups against each other.

    Meanwhile the media usually covers up its own pedophilia. We rarely hear about these sort of trangressions:

    Actor Corey Feldman Says Pedophilia No. 1 Problem for Child Stars, Contributed to Demise of Corey Haim

    138 Hollywood actors, actresses and filmmakers support admitted child molester Polanski

    Hollywood's Favorite Child Molester

    Recent Charges of Sexual Abuse of Children in Hollywood Just Tip of Iceberg, Experts Say

    Hollywood has even glorified gay activist Harvey Milk as a saint despite the fact that Milk had sex with a child or that he was closely allied to Jim Jones.

    Here is an excerpt from Randy Shilts' The Mayor of Castro Street pertaining to Milk’s boyfriend, Jack Galen McKinley:

    "...sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure...At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him." (pages 30-31)

    Apparently this kind of behavior was not unusual for Milk. More excerpts:

    "It would be to boyish-looking men in their late teens and early 20's that Milk would be attracted for the rest of his life." (page 24)

    "Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems." (page 180)
     
  22. Daggdag

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    It's still a crime to have sex with an minor, even if they are over 12. I suppose you could call them statutory rapists instead.
     
  23. SFJEFF

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    Generally 'good news' gets far less attention than bad news, but on the whole, I think the Catholic church's charitable activities get more press than other religious groups.

    And they should.

    By the way- you do realize that pedophilia by Catholic Priests is a crime against Catholic people- or don't you?

    Media bosses? And who would these be- are you perhaps referring to "Jews"- since that seems to be the only group you have left out.



    Actor Corey Feldman Says Pedophilia No. 1 Problem for Child Stars, Contributed to Demise of Corey Haim

    What is sadly ironic is you say that these are rarely referred to, and then you proceed to show how media did report them.

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    Here is the difference between the Catholic Church and Hollywood.

    Parents and children reported sex abuse to the Catholic Church and the Church actively concealed the abuse, and protected pedophile priests from prosecution and continued to allow the priests to abuse children.

    No one reported Milk for child abuse. No one accused Milk of child abuse. He may have indeed had sex with a 16 year old boy- but we will never know, because everyone involved is dead. But Hollywood never did anything to protect Harvey Milk like the Catholic Church did.

    This is just a big pile of deflection- basically waving your arms and saying "Hey what the Catholic Church did wasn't so bad- look at what Hollywood and the Jews have done!"

    Feel free to condemn pedophilia anywhere it happens.

    But man up and address the church's decision for decades to protect the church and priests rather than children.
     
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    That's OK, other people can still see what a jerk you're being.
     

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