The Obama Legacy

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  1. SillyAmerican

    SillyAmerican Well-Known Member

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    Ask the people being gassed whether they are properly celebrating the destruction of 1300 metric tons of chemical weapons.

    In certain instances, the President needs to act. This is one of those instances. As I say, I support President Trump's actions, and I would have support President Obama, had he done the same.

    Needless to say, I agree with you 100%.
     
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    Neo- liberal warmonger who (except for Hillary supporters) betrayed the people who voted for him as opposed to Republicans neo- liberal warmongers who reflected the values of their base. The democrats lost the house, senate and presidency and hundreds of local representatives on his watch so Republicans should be grateful to him.
     
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    Not what the Founders thought.

    Then you say the Constitution is null and void.

    He did not strike the chemicals.

    What adult are you referring to?

    http://beforeitsnews.com/african-am...own-splendid-little-war-in-syria-2459163.html

    "On the other hand, because the Trump administration warned its Russian counterparts prior to launching the attack, the Syrian government had time to evacuate its forces and equipment from the area.

    This military action has demonstrated once again that Trump is a flagrant and unapologetic hypocrite. During the 2016 presidential campaign, he repeatedly said he would not intervene militarily in Syria and criticized President Barack Obama’s decision to do so.

    This military action has demonstrated once again Trump’s inconsistent public policy and unpredictable “leadership.” As one of his first acts as president, Donald Trump attempted to bar Syrian children and other refugees from entering the United States. In February 2016 he told his supporters during a rally that he could look Syrian children in the face and say, “You can’t come”:"
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So why don't you guys help out then instead of trying to tell us how we should do it under our law? What's your dawg in this hunt?
     
  5. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    I bet you're right. It's so dissonant from reality. Slavery. Who knew that the great O would be so directly responsible for the resurgence of slavery? What on Earth was the Nobel laureate thinking when he ripped a hole in the fragile stability that passed for at least some semblance of human rights in Libya?
     
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    Over there doing - JTF2 has been there for some time and we replaced our bombing mission with training missions. We've been there from the start of Obama's coalition against ISIS.
     
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    Like I said, I support the action as well. BUT the question of legality MUST at least be asked whenever the president orders american forces into action.
     
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    President have been acting on short engagements with many precedents having taken place.
    Not at all. But 'more than two dozen members of Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, were briefed Thursday by White House and Cabinet officials. House Speaker Paul Ryan, the No. 3 U.S. official, said he was among those informed'.
    You're right. My understanding from the first reports was that was his target but I was wrong or misheard.. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-airbase-chemical-weapons-idlib-a7672126.html
    Donald Trump and those he appointed.
     
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    I don't think they would respond.
     
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    This isn't Obama legacy - it's US legacy, no matter which party inforces it. The US foreign policies for the ME are written in Tel-Aviv no matter if it's Dems or Reps handling it.

    Just look at Trump - he was supposed to break the mold, but the mold got him after merely 100 days, and as a result he reversed his more isolationist policies for the road most travelled. Predictably.
     
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    You are trying to tell us that a Republican administration would have defended Kadhafi and kept him in power?

    ... Yeah, right.
     
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    Fck Israel.

    The rest are pretty much things I never heard or cared about. Most of them are hhuuuuge streetches and some are just tin-foil plots.

    In conclusion, putting all of these grains of sand in the hope they amount to a mountain is more pathetic than convincing, as the reader realizes that there ain't much you can really blame on Obama.

    Was bad weather his fault too?
     
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    Nah. the big O owns this one. Slavery by his hand. Ironic and sad.
     
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    They should be brewing more sht alright... Their military industrial complexes are literally dying of hunger. Savages.

    For a time, we (as the rest of the world) believed that you would be the world' policemen... And trouble is, you really became into that role: Corruption, self-interests first and foremost, cheap labour, maintening oligarchic regimes into power, wars for self-interest, Us and Them, injustice etc.

    Just like the cops.

    You were the world's policemen for a while and you failed. Now, after the fall of the Soviet empire, and your new status as the World's Sole Superpower, the world is in a sorrier state than before; And as a consequence your reign will be one of the shortest in history.

    Now please leave the stage with dignity. Let's see if China can do better.
     
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    Holding on to your illusions will get you little, temporary satisfaction.
     
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    Does not make it Constitutional. BTW, they have done so 54 times.

    After the fact, not before

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eter-chemical-weapons/?utm_term=.fd2df387e1a2

    Haven't seen any evidence of it especially with Trump. Still whining about Obama, and never taking responsibility for his own actions.
     
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    Obama's biggest legacy was the American division. America suffered a major blow to the knee caps during his Presidency. Also, he was buddy buddy with known bigots like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. That just kills any credibility he has for any "cause".
     
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    I'm sure the nice folks who are currently suffering through their enslavement appreciate your willingness to ignore their plight, and the cause of it.
     
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    I am sure you really care as well.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    And yet, I actually do. It is an unacceptable consequence of the O's meddling. He now has a foundation. Why isn't his foundation working to undo his criminal acts as president? Surely facilitating slavery must be considered a crime, no?
     
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    Yeah, I can only imagine Obama, all dressed in white in a dark, high-ceilinged "war room", consorting with commies, islamists, slavers as well as the ghost of Nero, stroking a diamond-collared cat...

    :alcoholic:
     
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    Frightening, huh?
     
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    So you will carry this same bizarre approach to Trump too? Or only the corrupt left get a pass with you?
     
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    You lack the oratorical gifts, and the gravitas, to speak for the rest of the world. The hat doesn't give you that power.
    Others come and go but the USA just keeps chooglin' along. Who would you want in charge to handle those brutal dictators, most of whom seem better organized than the UN?
    What do you admire most about Chinese policies?
     
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    Trump? I was talking about Obama.
     

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