The Party with No Ideas

Well actually that came after the EPA.

 

Not if you can read history.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is an independent agency of the United States federal government for environmental protection.[3] President Richard Nixonproposed the establishment of EPA on July 9, 1970[4] and it began operation on December 2, 1970, after Nixon signed an executive order. The order establishing the EPAwas ratified by committee hearings in the House and SenateThe Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is an independent agency of the United States federal government for environmental protection.[3] President Richard Nixonproposed the establishment of EPA on July 9, 1970[4] and it began operation on December 2, 1970, after Nixon signed an executive order. The order establishing the EPAwas ratified by committee hearings in the House and Senate
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The burning Cuyahoga River in 1969 had led to a national outcry. In December 1970 a federal grand jury investigation led by U.S. Attorney Robert W. Jones began, of water pollution allegedly being caused by about 12 companies in northeastern Ohio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Environmental_Protection_Agency

 

You are correct however - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-river-45-years-later/?utm_term=.d500b0283cb0 Please note this is mostly a case of of closing the barn door after the horse had lefts. For instance the 1969 fire was the last and the pictures of it are actually from the 52 fire on the same river that sparked a massive clean up campaign by various local governments along the river Cleveland spending very nearly as much by itself 100 million as the entire federal budget for the entire nation.

 

Gov't is always slow to respond.
But, some gov't agencies popped up, because big business didn't care about environment. Some didn't care if they swindled people out of their money.
So, we had a tripling of people in the country and shady business practices that increased the size of gov't.

 

Not really no.

 

Yes, really, yes.

 

I would not say democrats have no ideas it is just the ideas they do have suck.

 

Gotta say...

I agree with a lot of this.

 

Is government slow to respond yes. Generally glacially, not only are they slow to respond they are often grossly ineffective and not infrequently counter productive because the incentives are bassackwards.

 

Or its greedy corporations making false statements and phony reports, that slows things down? So they can continue to pollute, kill, and make record profits?

Hmmmmmmmm, like what?

Cigarettes dont cause cancer?

No such thing as climate change?

Yep, Id say thats what happens all the time!

 

No one has ever said there is no such thing as climate change. That's just a leftist BS talking point. Climate changes with frequency and often in a hurry. The evidence suggests that there have been 1-3 snowball earth events in the earth's distant past; that the last three glacial interstitials all reached higher temperatures than this with no input from human beings at all and that CO2 levels have been higher than this at the beginning of ice ages.

 

Generally, the incentive is to protect something or someone.

 

Generally the incentive is to grow government and empower Bureaucrats and make their lives easier.under the guise of protecting some one or something which they often do not do well or at all.

 

We'll just have to disagree.

 

But of course it there is a reality that leftist cannot afford to recognize.

 

Recognize what?

 

That government is run by flawed human beings or that all human beings are flawed in one way or the other and that more human beings tend to exacerbate and magnify those flaws rather than minimize them. Hence large governments tend to reflect the sum of all those flawed human beings to the nth power.

 

That’s because the Republicans are the only party that has shut the government down in order to try and force their agenda.

Trump is the first President to manage to lose a shutdown battle, one of his many dismal “firsts”.

 

So, according to your instant made up “logic”, big corporations are just as flawed, and therefore they “tend to reflect the sum of all those flawed human beings to the nth power”

Funny, you talk radio reactionaries never have a bad word to say about big banks, big corporations or big oil......

 

O BS The Dems have an agenda as well. Government gets shut down when neither side will give in. It is no more one party's fault than the other.

 

Of course big corporations are flawed they are also run by human beings. The difference is that even the biggest corporations have management teams that are minute in government management teams are far larger than necessary and grow even larger still because there is no over riding reason not to.