The problem with repressing peaceful protests...

It makes sense to anybody who understands the part of the Constitution that you quoted.

 

Dodge noted.

 

Yep! But that's not what the photos are about. Each and every person there using a mask (which protects all others there) is protesting to protect their civil rights.

Now... if you want to learn about the Pandemic (amazing that somebody still doesn't understand it after all this time) there is a section of the Forum dedicated to it.

Sounds simple, doesn't it? Wearing masks is, in fact, one of the guidelines the CDC has established for reopening. In fact, many countries are opening thanks to the fact that they followed similar guidelines. But you live in a country in which extreme right idiots refuse to do something this simple. And the only reason is that their idiot leader refused to do it. Like sheep they followed.

But, again: that has nothing to do with the protests. Throughout history people have been willing to put their lives at risk, and even that of their family, because the moment to defend civil rights cannot be postponed as if it were some... political rally.

 

No point in answering me with an internet video since I can't watch them. I have metered internet access.

 

Great! But you didn't answer my question: Has there ever been a government in history that guarantees the right to peaceful protests but stops riots by locking up peaceful protesters and not the rioters?

 

I haven't seen any peaceful protesters locked up. Have you?

 

Then you advocate criminal trespass and illegal occupation of government buildings. That is NOT enumerated in the Constitution and you damn well know it. Nor are these riots "peaceful," a direct falsehood which nobody with functioning eyeballs would believe. This losers' cause is self-defeating and the longer it goes on the certainty it will backfire on the Biden campaign. So sure --- occupy those buildings. Until you can't.

 

Not likely. The closer we get to the debates, or Biden evading them and losing the election before it's held, the stranger his tactics get, harping on imaginary points he thinks are gotchas. Hoooo nelly, gonna be a long 100 days.......

 

Specify where the Constitution ENUMERATES the right to burn and loot and kill --- and call it "peaceful."

 

So, we've had a couple posts back and forth, and in each response to me, you can't help but to toss a veiled, or not so veiled, insult in my direction. I love keyboard warriors. The true heroes of today's society, bravely, and anonymously, using clever wit in an attempt to discredit someone in an online debate. I have not returned the favor, because I'm an adult, and I have grown tired of these teenage antics. Adios!

Even through this cloud of smoke, I did notice that you vaguely, and of course very cleverly veiled, did acknowledge that the protestors are actually likely spreading a deadly virus.... You sure did burn a lot of grass before actually somewhat, kinda sorta, (and easily deniable under the guise of "I never said that specifically") uttered the words that somewhat resembled it.

Ciao!

 

Citations needed.

 

Well in the case of Portland there are a few, very few, peaceful protesters hiding in the middle of a mob if violent thugs.

Giving aid and cover to criminals is called aiding and abetting. It is a crime, for which the sentence is the same for the crime being committed. Some years back a woman was raped in a new York City bar. Two men did the deed but the whole damn cried instead of coming to the woman's aid cheered the rapists on. Eventually many of those in the crowd went to jail as accessories.

If you are covering for and camouflaging criminals in your midst the law says you are no different than the criminals.

 

Reuters is reporting that 18 of the Portland rioters will face federal charges.

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department on Friday said it has arrested 18 people and charged them for alleged crimes committed during recent anti-racism protests in Portland.

In a statement, the department said all 18 had made a first appearance in federal court and were released pending jury trials or other court proceedings.

Billy Williams, the Portland United States Attorney, said that five people were charged for allegedly committing crimes including assaulting a federal officer, trespassing and creating a disturbance during protests on the night of July 20-21.

Prosecutors said that seven people have been charged in connection with criminal conduct during a July 21-22 night protest. Another six were charged for their alleged actions in protests during the night of July 22-23.

MORE = https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...tent&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

It was all fun and games when it was the revolving door courts of Portland, but federal courts aren't that sort of daycare center.

It's not going to be time out, a juice box, and mommy comes to pick you up. Those dirtbag rioters are in the grown up world now.

 

The weakest link will rat the others out first. This is just the start of unraveling who was truly behind all this. It could be Antifa, it could be BLM, it could be anybody else or a combination, who knows. But somebody planned it and somebody needs prison for launching it. Let's hand it to them with vigor.

 

Just so you know, blindly repeating talking points you hear from Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity does not make you look smart.

Nothing personal. Just wanted to make you aware.

 

Pointing out what it is you don't understand and then explaining it to you (or pointing you to the explanation) is not an insult. It's what these forums are for. We try to figure out why you are saying something erroneous and then we rebut it. In this case there are obvious deficiencies in your understanding about how this pandemic works. But it's off-topic here, so the best thing is to point you in the direction of the appropriate threads.

If you can't differentiate between criticism of what you say and an "insult", political forums might not be a place that you will find fulfilling. Most people here tend to develop a bit of a thicker skin than that.

It turns out protesters are not spreading a lot of virus. They are not in an enclosed space, and they are wearing masks. Any that don't wear one do increase the risk slightly. But I didn't see many. However, that's not the topic of this thread (unless you want to argue that Trump sent his SS to avoid the virus from spreading... which would be hilarious). Derailing a thread is considered bad manners. More so than qualifying what you say.

 

You must be referring to all the "spews" that are "copied" from Limbaugh/Carson and "pasted" to the brains of Trumpists.
Like the one in red that's been pasted into your brain.

 

I have no issue with Federal officers guarding Federal property but that’s not what they’re doing they’re engaging protestors—initiating the engagement.

That engagement is drawing crowds beyond the initial protest. All one needs to do is peruse Portland’s hot map of activity to see that clearly. Their presence is escalating activity.

What’s the goal—the mission? De-escalation? Targeting groups that are causing destruction? If it’s the former your approach is failing. If it’s the latter you’re utilizing the wrong tools.

If your goal is anything else it’s nefarious.

Regroup.

identify your mission and utilize the proper tools. A semblance of competence would go a long way here.