The purpose of life?

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  1. WhatNow!?

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    You're chasing your tail on that one....surviving is the PURPOSE of life ? So you survive to survive so someone else can survive to survive....???

    NO, that is not the PURPOSE of life...it just doesn't make sense....that's like gerbils running in one of those little wheel things....

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    Why? Ya learn all that and then ya die...what purpose was there?
     
  2. Dark Star

    Dark Star Senior Admin Staff Member Donor

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    Well, I can take that in a couple of different directions. First one, and the easiest, would be to ask you if you've ever just stopped what you're doing to sit for a moment and watch a sunset. I'll assume that the answer to that is going to be "yes," so the next question I'd ask would be, why did you bother? 5 minutes later, the sunset was over, so what was the point? Other than that simply sitting there and watching the sunset, and feeling the emotions that it inspired in you, has a great deal of value - and thus purpose - in and of itself. Even if it's only in a tiny way, your life is somewhat better for the moment you took out of your life to watch that sunset. What else were you going to do with that 5 minutes that would have given you more value?

    And another direction to take it would be that in following the path that I described - the path of personal growth, of loving and sharing that growth with others - you're having a direct, and lasting, positive effect on the lives of other human beings. It's the spiritual equivalent of passing on your DNA. When you make a conscious and deliberate effort to develop in yourself the best of who you are, and then to share those qualities with others so that they can incorporate them into their own selves, you're passing on the best of who you are to future generations. You're making the word a little better place long after you're gone and forgotten. Is there really no purpose in that?
     
  3. cupid dave

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    It only seems to be irrational to you because you are myopic and sel cntered.
    You are insignificant to the immortal survival of that Collective Unconscious of which you are merely a speck that contributes to its immorality while you live.

    What actually survives is this Spirit or metaphysical Entity which is the Good Shepherd, a Thirde Eye that oversees and see all that Humanity experiences generation after generation....


    "For just as the Father, (The Force of Nature), raises the dead (who rest in the human gene pool) and gives them life (again, from their genetic blueprint carried in the blood of the humanity that exists already), even so, (theCollective Unconscious mind), the Son, (watching over them and each generation of the living, though he is inaccessiable to their Consciousness until the next adaptation essential to our evolution: [Gen 9:11]), also gives life to (the next species yet to evolve, Homoiousian sapiens), whom He wishes."

    For not even the Father judges anyone, (they either adapt and will adapt or become extinct), but He, (the Force behind Nature), has given all judgment to (the Unconscious mind inside of their psyche), the Son, so that all will honor the Son (through the altruistic love of others) even as they honor the Father (in the love for God: these two loves are the sum of the Torah and the prophets).
     
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    Are blind people animals? Because I don't think they're on this forum either.
     
  5. Dark Star

    Dark Star Senior Admin Staff Member Donor

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    Aware of it? Yes, absolutely. Understand it as well as I'd like to, and as well as I someday hope to? No. Not yet, anyway.

    In my personal belief system, the process you're describing actually follows a somewhat different pathway than through our DNA. I believe that the pathway is more spiritual or metaphysical than biological. I believe that in this universe, there is a grand, overarching consciousness to which we are all connected - which is a part of each of us, and of which each of us is a small part - that we can sense to a limited degree, but which is mostly beyond our ability to consciously perceive. At least, to the degree to which most of us would like to perceive it and experience it. I believe the awakening which you're describing - the pursuit of the path of enlightenment - is the process of learning how to touch and experience that overarching "superconsciousness."
     
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    We are on the same wave length, then.

    The Super Consciousness is the manifestation of the Collective Consciousness which is immortal and lives on after we die and our own individual contribution to that Collective stops interacting with it.
    It is already here when we are born into the world.

    We bring our own past memories of previous life experiences into this Collective mind and add to it.

    This Collective Mind interacts with us thru a one-way street, sending us dreams and subliminal messages unbidden and only at its own bequest. It guides and reveals things through us and others if it so deems to do.
    In this way, it leads us down the path of survival.

    This is the immortal Great Man of the Zorah which the ancient kabbalahist intuitively described, and "He, the essence of experiental Truth is what survives our timely deaths and He is the purpose of our life, to add and subtract from Him at death so He survives forever.



    http://www.livescience.com/6663-tibetans-underwent-fastest-evolution-humans.html

    Tibetan unconscious mind is awakening as genes evolve that allow them to consciously control body metabolism like breathing and temperature.

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    We are on the same wave length, then.

    The Super Consciousness is the manifestation of the Collective Consciousness which is immortal and lives on after we die and our own individual contribution to that Collective stops interacting with it.
    It is already here when we are born into the world.

    We bring our own past memories of previous life experiences into this Collective mind and add to it.

    This Collective Mind interacts with us thru a one-way street, sending us dreams and subliminal messages unbidden and only at its own bequest. It guides and reveals things through us and others if it so deems to do.
    In this way, it leads us down the path of survival.

    This is the immortal Great Man of the Zorah which the ancient kabbalahist intuitively described, and "He, the essence of experiental Truth is what survives our timely deaths and He is the purpose of our life, to add and subtract from Him at death so He survives forever.



    http://www.livescience.com/6663-tibetans-underwent-fastest-evolution-humans.html

    Tibetan unconscious mind is awakening as genes evolve that allow them to consciously control body metabolism like breathing and temperature.
     
  7. WhatNow!?

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    Oh! I just ADORE those insulty posts by goddies.....Honor this myth, honor that myth but be as nasty as possible to humans who are realllll so typical... good thing the goddies have a book to explain things so they don't ever have to think ! :)
     
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    That's quite some fiction there, bub.

    You must live next to a comic shop.
     
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    that's not kabbalah. You're making things up again.
     
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    Some of these posts clog a thread worse than a greasy wad of hair in the drain
     
  11. John.

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    Before we try to figure out the purpose of life we need to first decide the question "IS THERE PURPOSE to life?"

    The assumption that there is purpose to life is loaded.

    It implies that there is a reason that we exist or that life was intended.

    It automatically assumes an ID narrative and that there is an end goal.

    We evolved and are still evolving. There is no end goal in the mechanism of evolution.
     
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    But sometimes the process itself is the purpose. A journey can also be a destination in and of itself.
     
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    Again, "destination" implies intent and an end goal.

    You got an analogy for letting the colors run where they will?
     
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    Human life is the fusion of consciousness with sensation. The resulting mixture seeks meaning in order to understand the nature of reality. That's why people search for a purpose for their lives. The search for meaning should not give rise to an inference that there is meaning.
     
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    why?

    to continue

    life, once started, instinctively intends to continue.

    As far as a metaphysical reasoning i only have one that i could consider; existence (nature) is defining itself

    (mankind is the conscious life, of nature, that knows it exists and is in fact, describing itself)

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    solid

    "WE" are it, defining itself
     
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    then quit posting and it might not be so bad

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    that's 2 posts and not a dam thing on the thread
     
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    born once (dropped on your head), then to understand is being born again.

    That's what i do for a living
     
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    the quotes are from the Bible, but what do I expect from you? expecting intelligent remarks from you is like expecting expecting hitler not to kill jews....
     
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    hilter cant kill jews..........................and I expect it!
     
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    The purpose of life is the same as the essential purpose of the Universe, to come to a point where it can realise itself.

    Not one human here lives for procreation, or for pleasure only. They live for self fulfilment and discovery.

    Eventually after many lifetimes we will all come to much better understandng of ourselves and begin to realise the wide purpose of the universe.

    There is no worshipping God, thats a fools errand, any higher beings that there are could not possibly want that for us. Nor can any higher being judge us, as our best judge is ourselves.
     
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    The purpose of life is for life to evolve to the point where a life-form can ask what the purpose of life is.
     
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    and know what is real
     
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    Tat's been my point, that Truth is our Savior.

    Truth let's us know what is Real.
     
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    Right, unless you think of your God as concept.

    If you can stop anthropomorphizing the idea into a father figure that is like a person, and make your God an Ideal that gives you direction in life and provides the cope-ing skills to help you survive, then you will see that Truth is the High God among such other possibilities as Justice, Honesty, Loyalty, etc.
     
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    and the last word is?
     

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