The Republican Party's Final Humiliation

I don't know or may never know how Trump influenced the Republican voters to go with him. I guess he had some influence with a plac to make America Great again. ANybody can say that they can make America Great again but you have to have a master plan to do it.

 

You mean like the fringe rules Blue ? Red is in transition - Red knows the party is in trouble - they know about the demographic time bomb.

Not sure what this transition will look like but - anyone they put up in the next election will look better than Trump .. so nowhere to go but up.

Blue on the other hand is completely oblivious to its failings .. and have gone way far off the turnip truck .

 

Your idea of fringe seems a tad off. Not surprising of course. I agree the republicans have no where to go but up considering how deep in the slime they have sunk.

I am not surprised that you think such things as universal healthcare, covid relief, environmental protections, fair trade, minimum wage, higher taxes for the rich, rebuilding infrastructure, criminal justice reform, renewable energy investment, ending corporate welfare, etc are fringe ideas, I guess that explains your both your color and depth perceptions.

As for changing demographics, if you judge the value of an American citizen by the color of their skin or by the country of their parents or by their religion or lack thereof, or by their partisanship, then I guess your America is screwed. Good thing I don't like turnips.

 

That is quite a strawman you built - specially given I have been advocating for Universal Healthcare on this board for many years - and have the best arguments .. along with the best arguments against Trump - along with all of the rest of the things on your list - far better arguments for these things than you.

The problem with you is that you can not back up your claims or defend them - and thus default to demonizing the messenger - due to your complete inability to look at the flaws on the side you support. Myopic Tunnel vision .. and so on.

You mentioned Environment - a battle I have been fighting for decades - in the real world - developing and using innovative technologies to clean up contaminated soil and ground water.

Blue's policy has become so politically driven - that they are now making decisions which are anti environment - bad for the environment - and really horrible for the planet - demonizing folks like Michael Moore for speaking the Truth

Blue is now the "Neocon" party.. demonizing the anti war side - like Tulsi Gabbard - in a fury of propaganda filled venom.

Blue is now the Anti ACLU party - demonizing Dershowitz for maintaining the same position they Praised when he was defending Clinton .. and is now going after Free Speech - Freedom of the Press - Freedom of Information ..

Feel free to respond with something other than false accusations and demonize the messenger fallacy.

 

An 'idiot' trained 'like a dog': Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene mocks Parkland survivor David Hogg in previously unreported video

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...video-idiot-who-n1256516?cid=eml_nbn_20210202

She is a female version of Trump. How is that an asset?? She even talks like him.

 

I remember when the Republican party died after Nixon resigned. Along came Ronald Reagan less than 10 years later and liberals wept bitter tears. "DON'T THEY REMEMBER WATERGATE???"

You guys remind me of the condescending HRC and her confident prediction that "It's going to be me." Or the laughter on the Bill Maher show when Ann Coulter predicted that Trump had the best chance of winning.

Nothing is certain in politics.

Need some more examples of premature obituaries of the Republicans?

 

Interesting. The R party seems to be on self destruct mode........ having done it once.......it is trying again. It is not one cohesive party that makes rational sense anymore. If the younger generation.....like Green is any indication of what might come........it's future will be something rather different from what it traditionally was. It is rather fiercely divided now. ( divided ,we fall)

Green is high profile toxic and is taking the oxygen from the rest of the members.

 

You could make the same argument about the Dems. If the 2020 election had gone Trump's way, and it might have done so, there would be no end of theorizing about the AOC effect and Biden's goofy demeanor and on and on. Tens of millions voted for each party and will continue to do so for some time to come.

 

Brandolini could use this as a case study.

As for demonizing the message, I will retract my strawman about what blue policies you support or dont, but I'm afraid your description of "BLUE" employs anecdotal justifications and presumptions of motive. Now far be it for me to point out any unsubstantiated claim you may have made, or for that matter any logical fallacy you may employ in pointing out my use of same.

 

something to consider......as it is very relevant currently.


The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories: Why Do People Believe Them?

https://psychcentral.com/blog/the-p...091aa0bbf4ef284dc0ddf7d4abb252027c596581efa#1

 

Appreciate the burning down of the Strawman - kudos for that.

While it is true that I did not substantiate my claims to a large degree - these are far from anecdotal events.

Blue is the new Neocon - Obama admin were way bigger warmongers Than trump in terms of foreign policy - not so much for any lack of desire on Trumps part - but because of lack of opportunity. Obama spent most of the last decade allied with Al Qaeda in 2 wars - and that ain't no anecdote

"Anti Environment" - Not building Pipelines and/or investing in domestic production is the worst thing we can do for the Environment - as if we do not produce it here - or get it from Canada -Pipeline, we have to get it by tanker from somewhere else - Nigeria and/or other third world nations .. which encourages industrialization .. and we can't have that if we want to save the planet .. and that ain't no anecdote.

Anti ACLU - Dershowitz, Assange, (Whistleblowers who used legitimate channels to out criminal activity of Gov't/Domestic Spy program) proposed anti free speech, information, press legislation .. are not anecdotes.

Blue has fallen off the turnip truck -

 

House Republicans, divided and angry, meet to decide fate of Liz Cheney and Marjorie Taylor Greene (msn.com)
The Republican Party is getting split down the middle wondering what to do about their own involving Marjorie Taylor Greene and Liz Cheney. Cheney as you know one of the republicans voted to impeach Trump and and Greene who sides with Trump and favored the fact that Trump won doesn't make sense to me. I know Biden won and We're dealing with a former President that acts like a snotty nosed brat that still wants his way. He has got to learn that he can't and won't. That's all there is to it. Simple as that.

 

Former Republican representative Barbara Comstock speaks to CNN's Jim Sciutto about the direction of the Republican party, saying that Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is "toxic" for the party.

Comstock has a point saying about Najorie Taylor Greene. I have to agree with her. Greene is poison for the Republican Party. Cheney isn't that I can see. Look at Trump and Trump was and is poison or should I say bigger poison for the Republican Party.

 

Trump is Gone, But Trumpism’s Not Forgotten
Trump has done so much damage and it probably has affected the Republican in one way or another, that it will be hard to bring the republicans together united but not impossible. Biden is going to do as much as possible to eliminate Trumpism from Washington and once and for all. The main goal is to eliminate Trump from the Republican party forever.

 

House Democrats to vote on punishing Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene after GOP fails to take action

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...reene-after-gop-n1256626?cid=eml_nbn_20210203

If she was a democrat.....The Reps would have chewed her up and spat her out some time ago. The Rep party is ethically and morally flawed.....and totally hypocritical The condemn Liz Cheney for wanting Trump impeached ( justifiably) but stay silent when Green makes destructive and inflammatory consomme . They have lost their internal ethical compass.in favor of POWER. Perhaps they have to go through a self destructive process , in order to evolve into something positive and constructive and ethical.

 

That is ridiculous. Obama INHERITED the wars in Afghanistan and the belligerent occupation of Iraq. And your "allied with AQ" is utter nonsense. Its not only not an anecdote, its an outright blatant piece of bullshit propaganda.

Nope you don't have to get it from Nigeria or elsewhere. Didn't Donnie Peachs make the US a net exporter? And in any case, the oil is already flowing.

Only a "conservative" would suggest that an organization DEDICATED to defending civil liberties is a nefarious left wing tool of right wing oppression.

turnips are so passe.

 

You are in denial of reality. We were arming, supplying, and supporting the Anti Assad forces in Syria - right from the beginning of Armed Insurgency in late 2011 - through 2016 - allied with these insurgents - on the same side of the war..

We led a large coalition of nations in the effort to arm, supply and support this proxy war.

This is not "anecdote" - this is reality. And the nature of this reality - we do not have to guess about.

15 in congress standing up and saying ... "we did this" is not "anecdote" .. it is "Reality" one that you can not deal with - granted .. but you running around foaming at the mouth crying "Propaganda " does not change this reality.[/QUOTE]

 

Yes we do - you have no clue what you are talking about - and this has been explained in detail to you before... and thus is a case of returning to one's own vomit. .. like the extremist religious zealot - come to think of it. .. this kind of denial is sometimes also found in a non religious context .. albeit this is a slightly religious one .. your devotion to the Blue Dream .. that of "Blind Faith" .. also in common with the fundies I think..and protestantism in general.

Do you have an Obama Shrine somewhere ? .. or is this religion one where Iconography is not allowed ?

 

I have a clue, your empty rant above.

But feel free to go off the deep end. I find it can be very efficacious at times.

 

Awww ... are you a bit sore ? Does it sting finding out your beloved hero, Obama, turned out to be arming, and supporting Al Qaeda -in 2 wars ? .

But hey .. Hillary and Biden were there too .. Obama's actions with Brother El Saud to bring Saudi Style Strict Sharia Tyranny to Yemen has earned us complicity in war crimes accusations by the ICC - fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda in that war we are .. Sharing the Dream.

This is nothing compared to Syria though - Again hand in hand with Brother El Saud - and Al Qaeda as our proxy - in a battle to bring Strict Sharia to Syria.

Do you seriously believe El Saud was not giving Tow Missiles to Al Qaeda ? - and if not - who were these weapons going to pray tell

 

Totally clueless about Trump's populist message. It's not going away.

 

Trump made the republican party more responsive to working people. Now the dems are the party of the super rich and elites and they hate working people. Swamp republicans still need to go.

 

That proves that Trump made a mess of things when he was in office

I don't really know about that. How the Republican could help the working class remains to be seen

 

"Trump made the republican party more responsive to working people."

How did he do that and how exactly did it help the "working people"??

And why is populism taking hold as a preferred ideology??

thx..

 

The truth is Trump didn't care about anyone but himself. He liked to go on Twitter to produce his brand of fake news, and made insultls of other people.
Here are some:
You can now add "horseface" to the list of insults President Donald Trump has hurled at women publicly, which also includes "fat pigs," "slobs," and "dogs," to name a few.
The Complete List of Trump’s Twitter Insults (2015-2021) - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
There is more, But I'll quit while I'm ahead