The Republicans gave it their best shot . . .

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  1. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    then the only option left for Darden is to raise prices, how will that help the economy when those higher prices reduce sales and cause more layoffs? But I guess you will say they should just forget about making a profit and just try to break even in the best interests of the collective good---right?
     
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    how is trying to save your business "being stupid"?
     
  3. dujac

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    firing people doesn't save the business, read the article


    having an expressed healthcare policy saves money

    http://www.towerswatson.com/assets/pdf/6556/Towers-Watson-NBGH-2012.pdf
     
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    the article you posted earlier proved that its cheaper to just pay the fine. obamacare is a terrible bill and should be repealed. It will result in the destruction of private insurance and make healthcare go the way of the post office and social security. The government cannot do anything efficiently.
     
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    the article you posted earlier proved that its cheaper to just pay the fine. obamacare is a terrible bill and should be repealed. It will result in the destruction of private insurance and make healthcare go the way of the post office and social security. The government cannot do anything efficiently.
     
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    OK, I give up. You and Rahl are right, obama is the savior of the universe and should be proclaimed the new god of all people. obamacare is the best bill ever passed by congress and continued huge deficits will save the world, punish the evil rich, punish evil oil and coal, and everyone will live happily under their solar panels and algae farms. hari krisna!!!
     
  7. dujac

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    i see that you didn't look at the study


    you can't get anything right, can you?
     
  8. ragin cajun

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    I did read it, thats what it concluded--that its cheaper to pay the fine

    Sorry, he is not the savior of the universe, just the earth.

    Why is it so difficult for you on the left to see the guy for who and what he really is? Is your facination with the first black president so overwhelming that it prevents rational thought?
     
  9. dujac

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    show me where it says that?


    i'm not on the left


    i'm not fascinated with anybody

    i just don't like lies
     
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    employers are reducing hiring and expansion because of the uncertainty of the future economy and obama's intrusive anti-business policies. Its not driven by partisanship, its driven by economics and common sense. To claim that a business would lay off employees or cancel expansion plans in order to make the economy fail is just foolish.
     
  11. dujac

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    so, you can't show me where it says that
     
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    Not as foolish as making the claim they are reducing hiring and expansion because of (nonexistent) 'anti-business policies' or uncertainties.

    Demand is the only driving force behind expansion and hiring.
     
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    correct, and demand has dried up in the obama economy. People do not have money to spend when gas is $4/gallon and those that have money are holding on to it or buying gold and silver.

    This country is at a crossroads. Either we become a copy of failed european socialism or we return to freedom and individual responsibility. At the moment the voters have chosen european socialism, and they deserve what happens to them as a result of that choice.
     
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    "The math is pretty simple: The average family insurance plan costs about $15,000. The penalty for not providing coverage is $2,000. Drop insurance for just one employee, and you’ve saved yourself about $13,000. Companies would seem almost foolish, in this light, to keep offering benefits."
     
  15. dujac

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    first of all, you're confused, that's not from the study

    and neither the article or the study say what you claim:

    businesses like red lobster and papa john's that are laying off employees over politics are losing customers to the competition
     
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    How can you possibly argue that Obama shouldn't implement his agenda despite the fact that he won the majority of the vote? He put his agenda forward, he was reelected. That is a mandate to do what he was elected to do.
     
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    He did after the 2004 election. He won fair and square. I dislike his agenda, but he had the right to move forward and try to pass it.
     
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    there is a difference between and majority and a mandate. look the two words up and then come back and we can talk.
     
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    mandate - the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election

    source: new oxford american dictionary
     
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    From Wikipedia:

    In politics, a mandate is the authority granted by a constituency to act as its representative.[1]
    The concept of a government having a legitimate mandate to govern via the fair winning of a democratic election is a central idea of democracy. New governments who attempt to introduce policies that they did not make public during an election campaign are said to not have a legitimate mandate to implement such policies.

    Obama made higher taxes a central part of his campaign and he was fairly elected. The American people overwhelmingly support the measure. I would consider that a mandate.
     
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    For obama to have a mandate his party would have had to capture control of the House of Representatives. Did that happen? No.
     
  22. Phoebe Bump

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    What's this "compromise" quid-pro-quo stuff, Kimosabe? Compromise is for people who LOSE elections. If I were you, I'd just sit back and obstruct whenever I could.
     
  23. dujac

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    what a joke
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

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    Don't project. :)
     
  25. dujac

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    i project the truth
     
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