The right’s fear of education: What I learned as a (former) conservative military man

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    They have been shouted down, met with physical threats and intimidation, hell at Berkley they riot in the streets. After all the head lines I didn't think it would be necessary but I guess leftists live in their own lack of information bubble these days too.
     
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    The left these days are the ones advocating for restrictions on free speech. Every time you shout down a speaker you are agitating against free speech. Every time you riot in the street or physically threaten people to prevent them speaking you are advocating against free speech. Doing such things merely indicates to rational people that you don't even believe your own arguments.
     
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    Bummer. Especially after all the effort it took to get your Masters. But, it probably hadn't been the long previously when you got your 4 year degree, so, I can see why you make that choice.
     
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    TO ME, your viewpoint represents illogical rationalization misrepresenting principles.
     
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    Well it is 'liberal' arts. Not economics.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you know that the current usage of the word "liberal" is a perversion of it's original meaning.
     
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    As I noted elsewhere, there has always been a virulent, anti-intellectual element in every advanced and advancing society.

    The inherent, self-correcting virtue of science, and of academia in general, is that, far from being homogeneous, dogmatic, and doctrinaire, it is an ongoing, spirited competition of ideas in which those of merit triumph, but remain relentlessly subjected to criticism, critique, and revision.

    If you suspect an intellectually-invalid bias in any discipline and in any specific regard, it is your duty to challenge it with rigourous analysis, not wallow in a paranoidal antipathy to academia in general.

    Progress is ineluctable, whereas Intolerance and ignorance never advance. Unfortunately, they too survive and, occasionally, thrive.
     
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    So, you have 2 or so? Your claim is every conservative speaker for all of time has been shouted down.
    Can you prove that or not?
     
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    Threats are not First Amendment rights; peaceful demonstrations (even loud ones) are. . . . And Obama's hecklers were not beaten up.
     
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    Actually, no. Please explain.
    Liberal to me has always been apply loosely. Not rigid.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No man, Kent State. No man,Viet Vets returning as "baby killers" and literally spat on. No man, long haired hippy freaks "need not apply". No man, chicago eight. No man civil rights marches. No man kenndys assassinated.

    Conservative is not regarded as pure evil. The problem is everyone has a different definition of "conservative" and liberal and socialist but no matter what their personal definition of the term is, they all seem to rely on bumpersticker generalized emotionally negative characterizations of the the other side.

    What I regard as pure evil is white racialist nationalism, neo-nazism, jew hating, religious fanaticism. I find people who deny science and espouse counter productive policies to cater to special demographic and donor groups (war on coal being a blatant example), are typically rooted in either or both ignorance and knee-jerk unthinking reactionary partisanism.
     
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    Peaceful does not involve destruction of public property even trash cans. Peaceful is not assaulting or threatening people entering a venue. Or entering the venue with intent to disrupt the speaker.
     
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    Nationalism need not be race based. Socialism as practiced in much of the world is little more than a species of religious bigotry.
     
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    There have been dozens it has only gotten worse since the millennium turned.
     
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    Dozens isn't every single one. But a few.
     
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    Look up "classical liberal", and I think you will find it differs from current usage.
     
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    That's what liberal arts has been?
     
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    Near enough. About the only place the can go are a few seminaries and Liberty university.
     
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    There is power in being able to control a narrative.
     
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    It is against Forum policy to call other posters liars.
     
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    Never known an integrated multi-racial for of nationalism to exist. Got any good example to inform me?

    Unless you can present arguments I can't even imagine to support that bumpersticker about socialism, I'll have to say that is a pretty damn stupid comparison.
     
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    will prevaricator do?

    some conservatives would be SHOCKED at what classic liberalism actually is.
     
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    Most Americans, regardless of party affiliation, are not tolerant of that behavior. However, radicalism exists in BOTH parties.

    With the entire government NOW controlled by Republicans, naturally liberals are most likely to protest.
     
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    yes which cannot be done in an free press environment.

    Hence the move to totalitarian media control around the world.
     
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    I reject useless education.

    I fully embrace stem education that liberals are too stupid and/or lazy to endure.
     

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